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    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    You’re playing games. I posted the quote a number of times. You’ve responded to posts with the quote in it, just not the actual quote. Why? I will put it down again.

    President Lyndon Johnson said “If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.​“

    Your 2nd paragraph illustrates the level of education you received in college.

    I am for many of the policies that help offset years of discrimination that prevented everyone from sharing in the American Dream.

    Of course I don’t have an ass backwards low education, right wing manipulated understanding of these policies.

    Like DEI. A saw a point made that Kirk Ferentz, football coach at Iowa, employs a DEI type policy in making sure white DB’s have an opportunity to play where most schools don’t take white DB’s because of idiotic ancient stereotypes. He has produced a number of NFL DB’s that may not have otherwise gotten an opportunity. These weren’t 5 or 4 star recruits either.

    So should black recruits with 5 & 4 stars get to the chance to play DB at Iowa? Of course not.

    Other schools basing recruiting on these antiquated and race based stereotypes are missing out on talented players that could help the team.

    Knowing things like this, why would any of us not in the chosen tier of society be against DEI policies?

    No need to PM or brag. Just post it relative to the average American salary like I did.


    I think the LBJ quote is very dated and a bit racy.

    I think the culture celebrated currently by many black folks is bringing people down. And the *** type of politicians are sometimes cooked at racy.

    I do not mix football and race, however dolts like C Kapernick do. That guy is a moron agreed?​

    Do not duck my questions. My turn to play your games.

    Well ...

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      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      The ones that make more are either short term ( fresh out of college) or comparing a long time plumber to someone that hasn’t worked for a long time.

      But yes, well trained plumbers and electricians make great money. They just don’t only have a HS degree. They have to study and pass tests and earn a license/ certification.
      which is a lot more easier and cheaper than attending a college to get a degree. dont get me wrong, if you have a degree in the right field, you will be making bank! but the majority of folks with a college degree is working entry level since they aint got no experience. gotta start at the bottom and work their way up. but a degree does help a lot and will help move them along faster!
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        Originally posted by Dr Z View Post



        I think the LBJ quote is very dated and a bit racy.

        I think the culture celebrated currently by many black folks is bringing people down. And the *** type of politicians are sometimes cooked at racy.

        I do not mix football and race, however dolts like C Kapernick do. That guy is a moron agreed??/b>

        Do not duck my questions. My turn to play your games.

        Well ...
        Dated? It captures just how Donny got people to vote for him in both elections. It surely isnt racy based on the definition of the word.

        ok but I am not sure what that has to do with the points made or the thread.I think all cultures have elements in it that bring their own down. most notably what LBJ pointed out in that quote, which is why I asked about it.

        huh? No one is mixing football and race. You didnt understand that was an example to explain how DEI policies actually work?

        I notice you avoided answering why anyone wouldn’t support policies like DEI if you’re not in the top tier of society.

        No I dont. Why is he a moron to you?

        Because he exercised his 1st amdmnt ( spelled wrong because it got censored) rights and you dont agree with his views?

        But he has nothing to do with this thread.

        I have answered all of your questions.

        No one is playing any games other than you pretending you didnt know what quote I was talking about.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-23-2025, 03:51 PM.
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          Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post

          which is a lot more easier and cheaper than attending a college to get a degree. dont get me wrong, if you have a degree in the right field, you will be making bank! but the majority of folks with a college degree is working entry level since they aint got no experience. gotta start at the bottom and work their way up. but a degree does help a lot and will help move them along faster!
          Maybe. 4 years is the same as college. Plus you have to apprentice while doing it. My point is just like many white collar jobs, you can’t just walk in after HS and start getting paid like say a coal miner or a manufacturing job back in the day.

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            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            Dated? It captures just how Donny got people to vote for him in both elections. It surely isnt racy based on the definition of the word.

            ok but I am not sure what that has to do with the points made or the thread.I think all cultures have elements in it that bring their own down. most notably what LBJ pointed out in that quote, which is why I asked about it.

            huh? No one is mixing football and race. You didnt understand that was an example to explain how DEI policies actually work?

            I notice you avoided answering why anyone wouldn’t support policies like DEI if you’re not in the top tier of society.

            No I dont. Why is he a moron to you?

            Because he exercised his 1st amdmnt ( spelled wrong because it got censored) rights and you dont agree with his views?

            But he has nothing to do with this thread.

            I have answered all of your questions.

            No one is playing any games other than you pretending you didnt know what quote I was talking about.



            I avoided a 60's quote? It is very dated. DEI is used for other things , not sports unless you feel transgender men should play in women's sports. Do you?

            You don't answer my questions! Why not? I have little time for a sociology major / B L M proponent like yourself that plays games.​

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              Originally posted by Dr Z View Post

              I avoided a 60's quote? It is very dated. DEI is used for other things , not sports unless you feel transgender men should play in women's sports. Do you?

              You don't answer my questions! Why not? I have little time for a sociology major / B L M proponent like yourself that plays games.​
              Yes it is dated, Yet Donny used this to dupe you and others into voting for him.

              You still aren’t comprehending. I gave you a real world example of how DEI actually works because your posts suggest You have a warped view based on disinformation.

              I don’t care if they do because it’s such a minor issue. 500k college athletes and I believe 10-15 are trans. Even smaller issue in HS based on the numbers.

              Imo there are bigger and more important issues to focus on.

              Besides, any woman that plays high level soccer, basketball, hockey volleyball and other sports regularly practices against actual men.

              I went back and checked our exchanges. I have literally answered every one of your questions directly.

              Where have you ever seen me post I am a proponent of B L M? You shouldn’t make stuff up like that.

              Yeah, you run out of time when you realize you’re debating someone smarter than you that gives you direct answers while asking you questions you are uncomfortable answering.
              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-25-2025, 07:23 AM.

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                Donny’s budget cuts are taking money from police and fire departments.

                Among the cuts-

                Laid off all workers that investigate firefighter deaths.
                Fired hundreds of people that fight forest fires.
                Cut police budget in NJ and other states.

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                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  Yes it is dated, Yet Donny used this to dupe you and others into voting for him.

                  You still aren’t comprehending. I gave you a real world example of how DEI actually works because your posts suggest You have a warped view based on disinformation.

                  I don’t care if they do because it’s such a minor issue. 500k college athletes and I believe 10-15 are trans. Even smaller issue in HS based on the numbers.

                  Imo there are bigger and more important issues to focus on.

                  Besides, any woman that plays high level soccer, basketball, hockey volleyball and other sports regularly practices against actual men.

                  I went back and checked our exchanges. I have literally answered every one of your questions directly.

                  Where have you ever seen me post I am a proponent of B L M? You shouldn’t make stuff up like that.

                  Yeah, you run out of time when you realize you’re debating someone smarter than you that gives you direct answers while asking you questions you are uncomfortable answering.
                  Dunn,

                  I realize I am debating " sociologist " extreme alt left poster. AND one who addicted to trumpeting other leftist points.

                  Trump is focusing on securing the border and getting the non-USA citizens gang members are criminals off the streets in the USA. Fixing the BID EN inflation, making trade deals 50+ trade deals with other nations, Ending two wars , lowering energy costs among other things. I'd say he doing a grade A job, and ran on what he's doing.

                  You are a laughing stock here.

                  Now if you want to debate the above, go for it. We can talk about the major issues.

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                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                    Yes it is dated, Yet Donny used this to dupe you and others into voting for him.

                    You still aren’t comprehending. I gave you a real world example of how DEI actually works because your posts suggest You have a warped view based on disinformation.

                    I don’t care if they do because it’s such a minor issue. 500k college athletes and I believe 10-15 are trans. Even smaller issue in HS based on the numbers.

                    Imo there are bigger and more important issues to focus on.

                    Besides, any woman that plays high level soccer, basketball, hockey volleyball and other sports regularly practices against actual men.

                    I went back and checked our exchanges. I have literally answered every one of your questions directly.

                    Where have you ever seen me post I am a proponent of B L M? You shouldn’t make stuff up like that.

                    Yeah, you run out of time when you realize you’re debating someone smarter than you that gives you direct answers while asking you questions you are uncomfortable answering.
                    Come on we all saw the posts...

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