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the dumb fggts who think Pac won that fight... are just as dumb as the fggts who think Hypekin beat Canelo in the rematch
shush now, bltches...
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Originally posted by ELPacman View PostThat's a testament to his gym ethics and how weak the division is right now. It doesn't matter that he's winning. Perhaps more concerning at just how weak the division is that they let a 40yr beat them. Nobody in their right mind would consider a 40yr old in his prime. In fact at the lower weights the majority of fighters look old as f*k at 34. Prime years of a lower weight boxer is between 28 and 32.
You can't blame the division being weak. The welterweight division is actually quite strong. But as Floyd said, Pacquiao is a great fighter, he's just not on Floyd's level. Which is why excuses about him being "old" for the Floyd fight are silly. Floyd was just that much better than a guy that's that much better than the rest. There's nothing wrong with that.
Manny, like Floyd, benefitted from knowledge of the 'old style' of training. Which helps them against guys who only know the 'new style'. Even 40+ Shane Mosley would give Crawford, Keef and Porter a tough time in that ring despite not actually winning against two of those three.
It's the reason I have no respect for Manny ducking the Horn rematch, because if he actually took the crap seriously the first time, he would have blown Horn out of there. If he'd taken the rematch like a man and did what he needed to do in devastating order, we wouldn't now have Crawford running around claiming to be #1 because he ended up blowing out a lesser version of Horn before Manny could, and we would be seeing the potential for Spence/Manny for four belts with Crawford nowhere in the conversation.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View PostWhat he said here is correct, we dont need to go anywhere else, you boys argue like girls lol.
A guy can tell a 1000 lies but if he is telling the truth and you know it then its the truth, you say yeah but he lied before, the thing is we seen what happened lol so its no lie yet you idiots say oh he lied over there this is BS.
There is no logic to your argument, truth and lie is in the words not who is saying them.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View PostWhat power play, its part of a negotiation on many issues, the testing was in the very first draft given to them, and again purely looking at the amount of money at stake here, people cheat to win a dollar for that money people would do anything. Manny could of killed any power play by just saying sure thing like its nothing, which is what the public expects in this high stakes world anyway.
What if Floyd believed Manny was juicing, is it then a power play or just wanting a level playing field.
Im shaking my head thinking how can anybody not see through this whole testing thing in a contest worth 600 million dollars , are you boys serious.
I think there is a lot of emotion and not a lot of logic in the entire Floyd Manny saga.
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Originally posted by Apollo7 View PostYou can't just blame one guy or assume Pac has to agree to Floyds demands.
It's the reason Crawford can't get Spence. He has not accepted his place as the B-Side.
You accept WHATEVER the A-Side demands, because you know you can beat them regardless of barriers. It's when you're not sure that you start complaining about it.
Manny wasn't sure if he could beat Floyd without whatever Ariza was giving him (Roach admitted on record that Ariza put something in the shakes and Manny suddenly performed better). So he tried to split the difference: just tell me when they're coming (so I can cycle off). That's not random.
No, 2009 is all on Manny, just like 2015 and him putting on the form he had no injuries is all on Manny.
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Originally posted by revelated View PostUh, that's exactly what the B-Side must do. Just like Floyd did for Oscar.
It's the reason Crawford can't get Spence. He has not accepted his place as the B-Side.
You accept WHATEVER the A-Side demands, because you know you can beat them regardless of barriers.
Originally posted by revelated View PostIt's when you're not sure that you start complaining about it.
Manny wasn't sure if he could beat Floyd without whatever Ariza was giving him (Roach admitted on record that Ariza put something in the shakes and Manny suddenly performed better). So he tried to split the difference: just tell me when they're coming (so I can cycle off). That's not random.
Originally posted by revelated View PostNo, 2009 is all on Manny, just like 2015 and him putting on the form he had no injuries is all on Manny.
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Originally posted by revelated View PostUh, that's exactly what the B-Side must do. Just like Floyd did for Oscar.
It's the reason Crawford can't get Spence. He has not accepted his place as the B-Side.
You accept WHATEVER the A-Side demands, because you know you can beat them regardless of barriers. It's when you're not sure that you start complaining about it.
Manny wasn't sure if he could beat Floyd without whatever Ariza was giving him (Roach admitted on record that Ariza put something in the shakes and Manny suddenly performed better). So he tried to split the difference: just tell me when they're coming (so I can cycle off). That's not random.
No, 2009 is all on Manny, just like 2015 and him putting on the form he had no injuries is all on Manny.
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Originally posted by Goldie View PostLook, you�ve already admitted that you had a bias against the fight going in. You can get frustrated all you want. You�re full of sht.
This one ****** and was every bad stereotype people Mayweather haters say about him, and Pacquiao ****** too.
But you're trying to insist that anyone who finds the fight boring is just someone rooting for Pacquiao when most ****ing people found the fight boring. Even Floyd fans were disappointed around here when it happened. They were happy he won, but many of the better Mayweather posters thought he'd look better, too.
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