Is Josh Taylor the Weakest Undisputed Champion?

[Coverdale]

So do you think he's the worst or not?

I don't know enough about the old-time (1 belt era) fighters to make the call.

[MalevolentBite]

I don't know enough about the old-time (1 belt era) fighters to make the call.

This forum isn't for one belt champions. This is only ranking four belt undisputed champions. It is clear in my opening statement and the people I listed. Ranking four belt undisputed champions he's the worst in my opinion. The only other option is Devin Haney and I put Devin over Taylor.

[GhostofDempsey]

It’s a toss up between him, Jermell, and Haney. Jermell was and is overrated and avoided Hurd, Lara, Crawford, Tszyu. Haney got a gift versus a much smaller Loma, went 12 rounds with broken down Gamboa, and put on 25 pounds against Prograis. Got worked by Ryan who isn’t great or highly skilled. Cried like a girl for result to be overturned. He stinks the venues out with his clinching and running.

[MalevolentBite]

It’s a toss up between him, Jermell, and Haney. Jermell was and is overrated and avoided Hurd, Lara, Crawford, Tszyu. Haney got a gift versus a much smaller Loma, went 12 rounds with broken down Gamboa, and put on 25 pounds against Prograis. Got worked by Ryan who isn’t great or highly skilled. Cried like a girl for result to be overturned. He stinks the venues out with his clinching and running.

Can I play devils advocate with Jermell? In 2020 ring magazine had Jermell as the ring magazine champion and number #3 was Rosario who beat J rock who beat hurd in 2019. In 2022 he was still the ring magazine champion and Castaño was ranked #1 and he fought him twice. Charlo avenged his only lost at 154lb. How can he be tied towards the bottom when Artur Beterbiev up to the point of winning undisputed fought Oleksandr Gvozdyk which was a good win because technically he was the lineal champion when he faced Artur Beterbiev, Marcus browne 2021 ranked #7 by the ring, Joe Smith, yarde and callum Smith #6 ranked at the ring. Now that first fight with bivol was close, then on his first undisputed defense he lost and he might lose to bivol again. So how is he not considered towards the bottom too if he loses to bivol for the second time back to back?

Charlo only lost once at 154lbs and avenged his only lost at 154lbs.

Hindsight is 20/20 tyszu isn't want most thought. Yes his corner messed up his undefeated record but he got a bigger beat down from that Russian then Charlo did when he moved up to face canelo. Plus Charlo is 1-1 in undisputed fights. Currently Bivol and Beterbiev are 1-1 in undisputed fights and that record will stand since the third fight isn't for undisputed.

Yes Charlo ducked Lara. Alot of people did. Also for ducking Crawford, Charlo signed on to fight Canelo before Crawford beat Spence.

I am just playing devil's advocate. I definitely think Devin is towards the bottom but theres a few names on the bottom too if we cut this list in half it is what it is. Either way becoming a 4 belt champion is not easy.

Uysk, Crawford, Hopkins & Inoue gotta be the top half. I gotta sort rest out, but Taylor is at the bottom for me...

[MalevolentBite]

Here's my list.

#1- Uysk
#2- Crawford
#3- Inoue
#4- Hopkins
#5- Canelo
#6- Jermain Taylor
#7- The winner of the 3rd fight between Bivol & Beterbiev
#8 - Charlo
#9 - The loser of the 3rd fight between Bivol & Beterbiev
#10- Devin Haney
#11- Josh Taylor

[MalevolentBite]

My top 5 can be in any order. But that's my top 5. The lower half is personal opinion that i can back by some stats.

[Spray_resistant]

It’s a toss up between him, Jermell, and Haney. Jermell was and is overrated and avoided Hurd, Lara, Crawford, Tszyu. Haney got a gift versus a much smaller Loma, went 12 rounds with broken down Gamboa, and put on 25 pounds against Prograis. Got worked by Ryan who isn’t great or highly skilled. Cried like a girl for result to be overturned. He stinks the venues out with his clinching and running.

You make a pretty good argument in favor of Haney being the worst thus far and not Taylor who at his best looked pretty good but just fell off very shortly after. Haney on the otherhand hasn't really impressed or looked great other than against Kambossos who is just decent, not great, and Prograis who also fits into that same category.

[MalevolentBite]

You make a pretty good argument in favor of Haney being the worst thus far and not Taylor who at his best looked pretty good but just fell off very shortly after. Haney on the otherhand hasn't really impressed or looked great other than against Kambossos who is just decent, not great, and Prograis who also fits into that same category.

Devin went on to win another championship after undisputed. Taylor went life and death with Jack Catterall in the first fight. Then got beat down by Teo. Devin still is undefeated on "paper" there's no guarantee Taylor wins a belt at 147lb.

[Anomalocaris]

Did the booze destroy Taylor?

I thought he would become great but he just fell off a cliff.

[Wladimir1985]

Kambosos for me weakest undisputed champion.