Is Josh Taylor the Weakest Undisputed Champion?

[MalevolentBite]

I want to place a bet on him to win but I am not sure if he's still there mentally but he's fighting at home.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Josh was a beneficiary of Affirmative Action.

I’d spit on him if he was in front of me.

[Tatabanya]

Alcohol is what ruined Taylor. At his best, he was quite OK. Beating the best versions of Prograis and Ramirez is good enough.

[The D3vil]

I came in here ready to scoff at the premise & looking at the names on that list, I think he might be.

It's between him & Haney, but Haney's only 26, is still (technically) undefeated & has a long career ahead of him.

But Josh Taylor was a great fighter & a bonafided P4P great, which is why when Tank moved up to 140 to take a trinket secondary belt, there wasn't even a discussion of him fighting Josh Taylor for the real title.

[MalevolentBite]

Josh was a beneficiary of Affirmative Action.

I’d spit on him if he was in front of me.

Damn. Man. :0

[MalevolentBite]

Alcohol is what ruined Taylor. At his best, he was quite OK. Beating the best versions of Prograis and Ramirez is good enough.

Does he have a history of alcohol abuse like DUI or rehab? I don't want to label somebody a drunk without proof.

Pavlik had a well documented experiences with alcohol. I didn't hear anything about Taylor. Let me know.

[MalevolentBite]

I came in here ready to scoff at the premise & looking at the names on that list, I think he might be.

It's between him & Haney, but Haney's only 26, is still (technically) undefeated & has a long career ahead of him.

But Josh Taylor was a great fighter & a bonafided P4P great, which is why when Tank moved up to 140 to take a trinket secondary belt, there wasn't even a discussion of him fighting Josh Taylor for the real title.

Thank you for your comment. I used to always think about how Josh Taylor was the man in boxing at one point then just fell off within a 2 year window.

Being an undefeated undisputed champion at his peak is a major achievement. but out of this list, yes he is at the bottom.

Yes. Devin is close to the bottom too but I think he will pick up another belt maybe after boots moves up.

[MalevolentBite]

Ranking them would be pretty hard too.

[MalevolentBite]

I came in here ready to scoff at the premise & looking at the names on that list, I think he might be.

It's between him & Haney, but Haney's only 26, is still (technically) undefeated & has a long career ahead of him.

But Josh Taylor was a great fighter & a bonafided P4P great, which is why when Tank moved up to 140 to take a trinket secondary belt, there wasn't even a discussion of him fighting Josh Taylor for the real title.

Since you voted "no" is Devin your pick ?

[Tatabanya]

Does he have a history of alcohol abuse like DUI or rehab? I don't want to label somebody a drunk without proof.

Pavlik had a well documented experiences with alcohol. I didn't hear anything about Taylor. Let me know.

Here is the episode I was referring to:


The steady decline of Taylor in recent years, coupled with this incident, is a clear sign for me. A bit like the first "alcohol rumors" about Sergei Kovalev, which - with the passage of time - revealed themselves to be true.