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    #21
    Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

    Here is the episode I was referring to:


    The steady decline of Taylor in recent years, coupled with this incident, is a clear sign for me. A bit like the first "alcohol rumors" about Sergei Kovalev, which - with the passage of time - revealed themselves to be true.
    I did hear about that story. I dont think it's enough to call him a drunk. Kovalev got caught on video doing some and saying some wild stuff. And was actually convicted of assault.

    I was more looking for stories like that but I did hear about that Taylor story. Are you from the UK?

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      #22
      Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post

      I did hear about that story. I dont think it's enough to call him a drunk. Kovalev got caught on video doing some and saying some wild stuff. And was actually convicted of assault.

      I was more looking for stories like that but I did hear about that Taylor story. Are you from the UK?
      No, I'm not from the UK. My (obviously debatable) theory arises - as I said - from the coincidence between that incident (which also involved cocaine​ possession) and Taylor's rapid decline in the following years. Even if you don't get caught again, when you're into alcohol and drugs - even for a short while - your boxing career is automatically on the slide. See Aaron Pryor, or Edwin Rosario, or - even worse - Edwin Valero, who didn't lose a fight but basically killed his wife because of cocaine-induced paranoia.
      Last edited by Tatabanya; 04-15-2025, 07:55 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post

        No, I'm not from the UK. My (obviously debatable) theory arises - as I said - from the coincidence between that incident (which also involved cocaine​ possession) and Taylor's rapid decline in the following years. Even if you don't get caught again, when you're into alcohol and drugs - even for a short while - your boxing career is automatically on the slide. See Aaron Pryor, or Edwin Rosario, or - even worse - Edwin Valero, who didn't lose a fight but basically killed his wife because of cocaine-induced paranoia.
        I agree. To be fair. Aaron Pryor and Edwin career wise are wayyyyy better than Taylor. I get what you are saying.

        I also still think weight played a factor into this. It gotta be a reason why he never moved up when he knew he was kinda struggling with the weight drugs or not.

        I still think he was avoiding 147, kinda like Devin Haney who is also on this list and probably the second worst undisputed champion.

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          #24
          Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post

          Since you voted "no" is Devin your pick ?
          I actually voted before I read through the list

          Once I did, I kind of changed my mind & now I think it is Josh, since I think Devin will probably pick up a trinket or 2 at 147 eventually & he's still (technically) undefeated.
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            #25
            Does anyone think Josh will do well in his next fight? I put in a bet for him.

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              #26
              Originally posted by MalevolentBite View Post
              Does anyone think Josh will do well in his next fight? I put in a bet for him.
              He should win his next fight. It is a major step down. Essuman is a domestic level fighter fighting at euro level atm who is on the second half of his 30s. At European level he has picked up belts but also before lost to a nobody and basically I was gobsmacked when I saw this was Taylors next fight. He should win it but he has fallen off so hard I wouldnt be comfortable betting on him just because he is not a reliable guy. As an idea at the level Essuman has been operating, a few fights ago Essuman fought Chris Kongo, the guy who lost on the undercard here to Owen Cooper.

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                #27
                Why do you care to define such a thing?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by evets View Post

                  He should win his next fight. It is a major step down. Essuman is a domestic level fighter fighting at euro level atm who is on the second half of his 30s. At European level he has picked up belts but also before lost to a nobody and basically I was gobsmacked when I saw this was Taylors next fight. He should win it but he has fallen off so hard I wouldnt be comfortable betting on him just because he is not a reliable guy. As an idea at the level Essuman has been operating, a few fights ago Essuman fought Chris Kongo, the guy who lost on the undercard here to Owen Cooper.
                  Oh god. He's in my 25 leg parley. I don't even trust Josh Taylor. I am just hoping since he's fighting at home and they will rig it for him for the decision. I pray to God he doesn't pull a Ryan Garcia. Please Jesus!!! I need this parley !!!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

                    I actually voted before I read through the list

                    Once I did, I kind of changed my mind & now I think it is Josh, since I think Devin will probably pick up a trinket or 2 at 147 eventually & he's still (technically) undefeated.
                    Devin doesn't look good at all smdh.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Coverdale View Post
                      Why do you care to define such a thing?
                      Because becoming undisputed is one of the most pinnacle things you can do in boxing and I wanted to rank all the undisputed champions and while thinking about it I realized Josh Taylor was the worst IMO, so I created a forum to see if other boxing fans agree. I like Taylor. I got money on him in his next fight. He better win!!! .

                      So do you think he's the worst or not?

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