Has anyone ever hold their own vs eminem

[the traveler]

yes i did---em's message was cut-throat, he had a huge impact on music andtons of controversy amongst teen kids and young kids--so at this time, when renegades came out, em already had the mmlp out, the album that got him that controversy--from parents to religious people to other groups of people, eminem explained and broke down his view on all of it--and did it with a rhymescheme so unique, and the timing of his lyrics to the beat and how he switched his flow and cadance in each verse put his verses over the top--

go to war with the mormons--take a bath with the catholics--in holy water--no wonder they tried to hold me under longer---brilliant line--that line right there sums his view on religious groups criticizing his music--calling it satan's music--he had many groups cussing his music--that is only one part of that verse also--he went in on this song---em killed it..

His first verse he repeated a lot of things. Some of the lines were just filler to fill the rhyme scheme. Also, his rebuttals were weak. He said that "you see yourself as a kid again and you get embarassed" how is that a good rebuttal to the parents that criticized his music? Again, it's saying that if you've done something in the past that you shouldn't or can't criticize someone who is doing or illustrating that thing. It's a weak argument.

Jay-Z's first verse had a lot more logic to it. He brought up how the media criticizes him for corrupting black youth with his lyrics. How they say rappers are ruining the ******s, throwing all the blame at them yet they haven't done anything to help those kids in the hood. He says it's actually him and rappers like him that are renegades for brining out the ills of the hood to the forefront of the media and are who the kids in the ******s can relate to.


He brought up how the media, whites, are afraid to shine light on how really bad it is in the ******s. They are afraid of it getting out. "The renegade; you been afraid
I penetrate pop culture, bring 'em a lot closer to the block where they
pop toasters, and they live with they moms
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies *****z crotched over
Mommy's knocked up cause she wasn't watched over
Knocked down by some clown when child support knocked
No he's not around - now how that sound to ya, jot it down
I bring it through the ****** without ridin 'round"

[Pico Hollywood]

i agree that MC Juice is ill,
but you've got to give some solid evidence here. this is an argument. you can't just throw out a artist>>>>>>>artist
there is no argument in that. it's just your opinion. provoke some discussion here. give some examples.

MC Juice beat Eminem in a freestyle competition at scribble jam in 1997..

[Pico Hollywood]

you mean juice the guy signed to game's record label? damn




5'9 and P clearly held their own against Em.

The original juice aka MC Juice, he's from chicago he beat em in a freestyle competition back in 97 at scribble jam.. Juice has skills never really got signed great underground artist

[Put It Down]

lol @ however is saying Jay-Z outshined Eminem on Renagade and Jay-Z can't see Em lyrically

[Beasty]

lol @ however is saying Jay-Z outshined Eminem on Renagade and Jay-Z can't see Em lyrically

Jay z outshined em, and he is miles ahead lyrically..

Only thing em got an jay is FLOW.

[Third Degree MM]

The original juice aka MC Juice, he's from chicago he beat em in a freestyle competition back in 97 at scribble jam.. Juice has skills never really got signed great underground artist

oh yeah, how could i forget about the guy who killed em on the "rap olympics"

Percee P and MC Juice took a dump on Eminem case closed

[Third Degree MM]

Jay z outshined em, and he is miles ahead lyrically..

Only thing em got an jay is FLOW.

miles ahead Lyrically? ha!
how much does jay pay you for the **** cleaning?

[Beasty]

miles ahead Lyrically? ha!
how much does jay pay you for the **** cleaning?

I get 2k each week bud

[Third Degree MM]

I get 2k each week bud

ha watch out for those hemorrhoids

[the traveler]

lol, good **** beasty.

In all seriousness, though, Jay-z is one of the most underrated lyricist.