Has anyone ever hold their own vs eminem

[Third Degree MM]

@ 4:04 its em and Percee


P clearly kills em.

[Third Degree MM]

Juice >>>> Em..

you mean juice the guy signed to game's record label? damn




5'9 and P clearly held their own against Em.

[Third Degree MM]

I think Jay took both rounds on renegades. And, yeah, Jay-z > Eminem. But then again, that isn't a knock on Eminem as Jay-z is possibly the greatest rapper ever.

again with the bull****

[pbftxrs316]

in other words--hell no---jay z, game, royce, 50, dre, snoop, lil wayne, drake, biggie, even tupac--although they never really made a song together--neither did him and biggie--pretty much everybody who he's rapped with--he's outshined---jay z especially---em outshines other rappers on their own ****--fact--and has never not outshined them---

[pbftxrs316]

What was so lyrical about Eminem's first verse?

Since I'm in a position to talk to these kids and they listen
I ain't no politician but I'll kick it with 'em a minute
Cause see they call me a menace; and if the shoe fits I'll wear it
But if it don't, then y'all'll swallow the truth grin and bear it

A bunch of multis, nothing really that stands out
Now who's these king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics
Who could inherit the title, put the youth in hysterics
Usin' his music to steer it, sharin his views and his merits
But there's a huge interference - they're sayin you shouldn't hear it
again, a bunch of multis, first few lines were pretty redundant, filler

Maybe it's hatred I spew, maybe it's food for the spirit
Maybe it's beautiful music I made for you to just cherish
But I'm debated disputed hated and viewed in America
as a mother****in drug addict - like you didn't experiment?
Now now, that's when you start to stare at who's in the mirror
and see yourself as a kid again, and you get embarrased
again, this is really not that mind blowing. He's trying to imply that because someone did something in the past that they should't tell other not to do that thing. That's weak logic.

And I got nothin' to do but make you look ****** as parents
You ****in do-gooders - too bad you couldn't do good at marriage!
(Ha ha!)
Lame. Neither could you.
And do you have any clue what I had to do to get here I don't
think you do so stay tuned and keep your ears glued to the stereo
Cause here we go - he's {*Jigga joint Jigga-chk-Jigga*
And I'm the sinister, Mr. Kiss-My-Ass it's just the
not a really great verse


Jay-z verse was better. I liked how he was saying he brings the ills of the ****** to the forefront of the media and that if those same dudes in the media acting all stuck up and high and mighty were in his position that they'd lose their tie and shirt, basically would not be so clean if they had to live in the ******.

just coz you relate to jay's verse better--doesn't mean it was--coz it damn sure wasn't---em, at the time, had a bunch of negative press about his impact on young children with his content of his songs--and the parents of these children had a huge judgement on his perona in hip hop--so did the media----he put it all into perspective beautifully in this soong and crushed jay z in every aspect of the word crushed, and jay's verses weren't even bad if you talk about his message just like em's message was summed up amazing(so you have to take into thoughtheir flow in this case and delivery and rhymsescheme coz they both had amazing messages with their verses)---em's verses, however, were just that good in these departments---and don't ge me started on his songs with snoop, dre, 50, game, lil wayne, and hwoever else you guys got including royce who has never outshined em on any song--he may have held his own, but that kudos toroyce---em is on another level from these cats, i'm telling--the only rapper i see holding his own very well with eminem is joe buddens right now---nas, rakim, and big l are all time greats who would hold their own against em, but not outshine him---em is to brilliant an artist to be outshined by any rapper---

you didn't even break em's fcontent down, you broke down his delivery of the lines, what the **** were you thinking--i's like you didn't even follow em, but made an opinion about his lines--his lines were absolutely brilliant---

and for the guy talking about em's songs being for middle school kids and too gooofy---you're on some serious ****---i wouldn't call songs like---

lose yourself
stan
one day at a time
renagades
rock bottom
murder murder
quitter
love me
stimulate
sing for the moment
soldier
like toy soldiers
313
white america
mosh
still don't give a ****
the way i am
we ain't going
how come
rabbit run
you don't know
i remember
nail in the coffin
the sauce
we as americans
my darling
beautiful
ti'll i collaspe
forever remix
bitophobia
evil demons
cleaning out my closet
jealous woes
revelation
marshall mathers
warning shot
assassins
drop the world with lil wayne
dead wrong
yellow brick
when i'm gone
deja vu


shall i go on? i have plenty more of his serious songs for your dumb asses----trust me--he's a ****ing legends and the most conscience rapper i've ever listened to----

[Third Degree MM]

in other words--hell no---jay z, game, royce, 50, dre, snoop, lil wayne, drake, biggie, even tupac--although they never really made a song together--neither did him and biggie--pretty much everybody who he's rapped with--he's outshined---jay z especially---em outshines other rappers on their own ****--fact--and has never not outshined them---

@ 4:04 its em and Percee



again, PERCEE P outshines him period, just listen

[FrankJack]

Renegades is one of my favorite tracks, but I've never thought Em outshined Jay on that track. The flow and delivery was crazy from Marshal as usual, but as far as the lyrics I gave it to Jay. He was putting some real things in there.

[Beasty]

just coz you relate to jay's verse better--doesn't mean it was--coz it damn sure wasn't---em, at the time, had a bunch of negative press about his impact on young children with his content of his songs--and the parents of these children had a huge judgement on his perona in hip hop--so did the media----he put it all into perspective beautifully in this soong and crushed jay z in every aspect of the word crushed, and jay's verses weren't even bad if you talk about his message just like em's message was summed up amazing(so you have to take into thoughtheir flow in this case and delivery and rhymsescheme coz they both had amazing messages with their verses)---em's verses, however, were just that good in these departments---and don't ge me started on his songs with snoop, dre, 50, game, lil wayne, and hwoever else you guys got including royce who has never outshined em on any song--he may have held his own, but that kudos toroyce---em is on another level from these cats, i'm telling--the only rapper i see holding his own very well with eminem is joe buddens right now---nas, rakim, and big l are all time greats who would hold their own against em, but not outshine him---em is to brilliant an artist to be outshined by any rapper---

you didn't even break em's fcontent down, you broke down his delivery of the lines, what the **** were you thinking--i's like you didn't even follow em, but made an opinion about his lines--his lines were absolutely brilliant---

and for the guy talking about em's songs being for middle school kids and too gooofy---you're on some serious ****---i wouldn't call songs like---

lose yourself
stan
one day at a time
renagades
rock bottom
murder murder
quitter
love me
stimulate
sing for the moment
soldier
like toy soldiers
313
white america
mosh
still don't give a ****
the way i am
we ain't going
how come
rabbit run
you don't know
i remember
nail in the coffin
the sauce
we as americans
my darling
beautiful
ti'll i collaspe
forever remix
bitophobia
evil demons
cleaning out my closet
jealous woes
revelation
marshall mathers
warning shot
assassins
drop the world with lil wayne
dead wrong
yellow brick
when i'm gone
deja vu


shall i go on? i have plenty more of his serious songs for your dumb asses----trust me--he's a ****ing legends and the most conscience rapper i've ever listened to----

You didnt give any reason why eminems verse was better than jay z, Only thing em killed on renegade was his flow.. He rhymed his words together better.. But Lyrically Jay ate em.

[pbftxrs316]

You didnt give any reason why eminems verse was better than jay z, Only thing em killed on renegade was his flow.. He rhymed his words together better.. But Lyrically Jay ate em.

yes i did---em's message was cut-throat, he had a huge impact on music andtons of controversy amongst teen kids and young kids--so at this time, when renegades came out, em already had the mmlp out, the album that got him that controversy--from parents to religious people to other groups of people, eminem explained and broke down his view on all of it--and did it with a rhymescheme so unique, and the timing of his lyrics to the beat and how he switched his flow and cadance in each verse put his verses over the top--

go to war with the mormons--take a bath with the catholics--in holy water--no wonder they tried to hold me under longer---brilliant line--that line right there sums his view on religious groups criticizing his music--calling it satan's music--he had many groups cussing his music--that is only one part of that verse also--he went in on this song---em killed it..

[Third Degree MM]

yes i did---em's message was cut-throat, he had a huge impact on music andtons of controversy amongst teen kids and young kids--so at this time, when renegades came out, em already had the mmlp out, the album that got him that controversy--from parents to religious people to other groups of people, eminem explained and broke down his view on all of it--and did it with a rhymescheme so unique, and the timing of his lyrics to the beat and how he switched his flow and cadance in each verse put his verses over the top--

go to war with the mormons--take a bath with the catholics--in holy water--no wonder they tried to hold me under longer---brilliant line--that line right there sums his view on religious groups criticizing his music--calling it satan's music--he had many groups cussing his music--that is only one part of that verse also--he went in on this song---em killed it..

em got ****ted on by Percee