What if Jesus was just a crazy person?

[Lomasexual]

What you wrote is a bunch of mumbo jumbo, we are talking about the existence of Jesus, now whether you want to believe if he was God incarnate is another thing, but his existence is unquestioned among scholars. There are infinitely more sources on Jesus existence than anyone else in history from 2000 years ago.

No, what I wrote explains why it is impossible to change your mind, despite you being totally, totally wrong.

I mean, look at your last sentence. It's blatantly untrue, and an absurd thing to say.

Hell, we have the actual bodies of people such as Tutankhamun from more than 3000 years ago.

We have contemporary images and actual works from Julius Caesar himself.

Yet despite being about as wrong as it is possible to be, you cannot process this. I feel kind of embarrassed for you.

With zero physical evidence, zero contemporary evidence, and only conflicting anecdotal evidence from decades - or centuries after the supposed life of the Jesus character... how does this stack up with having an actual physical body such as with the Pharoahs?

You don't need to answer, and frankly I don't care what your answer would be, because it is wrong.

[Thraxox]

You should do some reading.

Among scholars of the New Testament of the Christian Bible, though, there is little disagreement that he actually lived.

�The reality is that we don�t have archaeological records for virtually anyone who lived in Jesus�s time"

professor Bart D. Ehrman, author of Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth. �The lack of evidence does not mean a person at the time didn�t exist. It means that she or he, like 99.99% of the rest of the world at the time, made no impact on the archaeological record.?br />
Within a few decades of his lifetime, Jesus was mentioned by ***ish and Roman historians

The first-century ***ish historian Flavius Josephus, who according to Ehrman �is far and away our best source of information about first-century *********,?twice mentions Jesus in ***ish Antiquities

in 64 A.D., Tacitus mentions that Emperor Nero falsely blamed �the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate,

When Tacitus wrote history, if he considered the information not entirely reliable, he normally wrote some indication of that for his readers,?Mykytiuk says in vouching for the historical value of the passage. �There is no such indication of potential error in the passage that mentions Christus.?br />
Shortly before Tacitus penned his account of Jesus, Roman governor Pliny the Younger wrote to Emperor Trajan that early Christians would �sing hymns to Christ as to a god.
Some scholars also believe Roman historian Suetonius references Jesus in noting that Emperor Claudius had expelled ***s from Rome who �were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus.?br />
but it is useful for realizing that Jesus was known by historians who had reason to look into the matter. No one thought he was made up.?br />

Stop posting UNDENIABLE HISTORICAL FACTS! ITS ONE OF THE FEW WEBSITES FOR ATHEIST TO FIND SAFE SPACE!

[Thraxox]

Atheists never read a historical book in their life morons like Loma***ual are a prime example of that. He's probably a follower of Richard Carrier who got denounced by his scholarly peers for not only rejecting the existence of Jesus but also starting a movement that Jesus was a myth.

[BoZz]

Isnt the easter egg a symbol of fertility or something? I think they stole it from an old pagan tradition the same as christmas trees being of pagan origin.

yes true, and the modern image of Jesus is modeled on Cesare Borgia, a gangster's son..his dad was a ruthless bastard

You dont sound like a believer either so Im trying to figure why you called me an idiot.

In a nutshell, Jesus/bible was created to keep people in line so he’s like Santa Claus for grownups.

I don't believe that Jesus is God nor the Son of God that's true and it's ok if you don't agree with religion or like Jesus, it's just the way you put it down, I think when it comes to religion we should all respect each other. But on the other hand most of the so called Christians on this forum are idiots too, they're too happy to bash other religions and get upset if someone says something about their believes. So either way, do as you like.

[KING MEAT]

jesus was the MLK of that time.
dude was a very popular activist.

[New England]

He could have been party based on a character like that or a old times magician or something but there's no mention at all of him outside of Christian writings, he didn't actually exist.

He is just a made up composite of many of the gods that went before him. there's literally nothing original about the Jesus story.

this is not true. there are mentions of jesus that are not christian texts, both roman and ***ish contemporaries wrote about him. there's really not that much disagreement among biblical scholars that he existed, was tried, and was crucified in a manner similar to that in the gospels.


it's just a reality thta almost nobody from 2000 years ago left an archaeological record. jesus himself could not read or write, neither could his followers / "the apostles" who lived and traveled with him. the gospels are an interpretation of stories handed down to scholars and learned people who could actually write them down. they were probably written / compiled over several generations and well after the apostles who knew jesus of nazareth had died.


TLDR:
yes, he was a real person according to most biblical, roman, and ***ish scholars who are experts on the subject.

[New England]

I agree with this as well.

well you would be wrong. nobody cares what you believe when we have evidence to the contrary. there are mentions of jesus in both ***ish and roman texts contemporary to the writings of the gospels. he was almost surely a real person, scholars don't beef about that any more.

don't listen to a word that "furn" guy says. hes'a house husband and his wife gets railed on the regular by the executives at her workplace.

[GGG Gloveking]

don't listen to a word that "furn" guy says. hes'a house husband and his wife gets railed on the regular by the executives at her workplace.

[Mighty_Windir]

What did Jesus specifically said that made you label him crazy?

I'd like to know

[Szef]

No, what I wrote explains why it is impossible to change your mind, despite you being totally, totally wrong.

I mean, look at your last sentence. It's blatantly untrue, and an absurd thing to say.

Hell, we have the actual bodies of people such as Tutankhamun from more than 3000 years ago.

We have contemporary images and actual works from Julius Caesar himself.

Yet despite being about as wrong as it is possible to be, you cannot process this. I feel kind of embarrassed for you.

With zero physical evidence, zero contemporary evidence, and only conflicting anecdotal evidence from decades - or centuries after the supposed life of the Jesus character... how does this stack up with having an actual physical body such as with the Pharoahs?

You don't need to answer, and frankly I don't care what your answer would be, because it is wrong.

i guess 99,9% of people who(allegedly) lived on this planet since its beginning didn't exist either then.