most difficult punch to see coming.

[nivek535]

JABS NOT INCLUDED.
my pick would be the rear uppercut.

[DondiNeverLeft]

From my experience, the no look over hand right, no look right cross, or even the no look left hook.

It's crazy how people call Garcias no look left hook lucky but believe me it's no luck when it happens that often.

Orlando Salido has that no look over hand/straight right that a lot of people don't see coming either...just ask Juan Ma Lopez.

Also Roy Jones had that no look left hook and was killing people with it.

I sparred with this guy that I know I was better than but he taught me about that Orlando Salido no look right... Lol

I adjusted but it was a painful adjustment.

[nivek535]

From my experience, the no look over hand right, no look right cross, or even the no look left hook.

It's crazy how people call Garcias no look left hook lucky but believe me it's no luck when it happens that often.

Orlando Salido has that no look over hand/straight right that a lot of people don't see coming either...just ask Juan Ma Lopez.

Also Roy Jones had that no look left hook and was killing people with it.

I sparred with this guy that I know I was better than but he taught me about that Orlando Salido no look right... Lol

I adjusted but it was a painful adjustment.

this almost sounded ******, but i can see the truth in it.. ive tried, and it worked. but havent had it been tried on me yet. i did not think it was reliable as it only worked on inexperienced people (everyone except coach(?))

[Ray Corso]

There's no one punch this is an individuals problem. Commonly the limit to
ones peripheral vision is the culprit.
Ali threw few left hooks but in his early days he had a hook that started low near his thigh and it traveled a long ways but it wasn't a punch that was picked up by opponents. What you can't see almost always has the most meaning.
Also straight shots can be deceptive, the punch Big George landed on Moorer
looked to be a basic right hand but it shot straight down the shoot and Moorer
misjudged the distance between him and George. Perception is a key.
Ray.

[nivek535]

There's no one punch this is an individuals problem. Commonly the limit to
ones peripheral vision is the culprit.
Ali threw few left hooks but in his early days he had a hook that started low near his thigh and it traveled a long ways but it wasn't a punch that was picked up by opponents. What you can't see almost always has the most meaning.
Also straight shots can be deceptive, the punch Big George landed on Moorer
looked to be a basic right hand but it shot straight down the shoot and Moorer
misjudged the distance between him and George. Perception is a key.
Ray.

thanks ray!
to clarify things, your point is that it differs from person to person depending on their peripheral vision's "weak side"/inexperience (inexperience in boxing)?

[Larry the boss]

depends on your stance..there is always a blind spot..most punches you duck catch or roll out of instinct....i never see the left hook but always catch it because i keep my right hand up in perfect position

[nivek535]

depends on your stance..there is always a blind spot..most punches you duck catch or roll out of instinct....i never see the left hook but always catch it because i keep my right hand up in perfect position

yeap makes sense. and also depending on distance.
i shouldve mentioned at what range.
actually, its a pretty vague question still..
depending on how things are set up etc.
well there goes the thread.

[#1Assassin]

From my experience, the no look over hand right, no look right cross, or even the no look left hook.

It's crazy how people call Garcias no look left hook lucky but believe me it's no luck when it happens that often.

Orlando Salido has that no look over hand/straight right that a lot of people don't see coming either...just ask Juan Ma Lopez.

Also Roy Jones had that no look left hook and was killing people with it.

I sparred with this guy that I know I was better than but he taught me about that Orlando Salido no look right... Lol

I adjusted but it was a painful adjustment.

none of those are "no look" punches.

they look and aim as they let it go, then shift to defense. by then however the punch is already on its way and once a punch is on its way you dont re aim it anyways, thats called pushing your punches. one you let it go its gone, maintaining eye contact helps make contact properly once it lands, but a true punches can make proper contact regardless.

to answer OP its very individual. for example JT struggles to see straight right hands while khan struggles with left hooks.

[Larry the boss]

yeap makes sense. and also depending on distance.
i shouldve mentioned at what range.
actually, its a pretty vague question still..
depending on how things are set up etc.
well there goes the thread.

yep distance is one of the most important things in boxing..trying to calculate your opponents speed and how he closes the gap will also dictate what punches you get hit with.....thing is your stance..has benefits and also downfalls..if you stand squared up you see more punches but will most likely get hit more because you can not move as well..standing sideways you can evade punches better but you vision is impaired...

[jas]

you guys might find this extract from bruce lee book about distance interesting :

click bar at top of image so you can see