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its a no no .but should i work on weight squats for leg power since i squat alot

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    #11
    Originally posted by Kid Achilles View Post
    I don't havr very good knees, I wonder if squats with light weights could build the muscles around them up some.
    not to be a smartass or anything, but i don't think it's your muscles
    it may be your joints and such
    i could be wrong though

    but yeah like he said, do some light weight and gradually add the weight so your knees have time to get stronger and hold more weight

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      #12
      Originally posted by Kid Achilles View Post
      I don't havr very good knees, I wonder if squats with light weights could build the muscles around them up some.
      Yes. I've spoken to people who have had knee problems and started doing squats, real squats with a bar and plates on it mind you, and their knees have become much stronger. One person in particular told me that his chiropractor said, "whatever your doing it's working".

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        #13
        Originally posted by dario View Post
        not to be a smartass or anything, but i don't think it's your muscles
        it may be your joints and such
        i could be wrong though

        but yeah like he said, do some light weight and gradually add the weight so your knees have time to get stronger and hold more weight
        The point is to build up muscle around the knee to aid the bad joints.

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          #14
          i bet those things im going to get will make my thighs burn when i run up hill.

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            #15
            I had occasional soreness in my left knee from an unwarmed up kick back in my karate days. It popped up now and then, particularly when I was doing shadow boxing and working on footwork. I started doing Hindu Squats mixed with squats holding a 15 pound medicine ball over my head. I have to say I have no more knee pain at all. Now I don't know if that is best for other people on account of the type of injury they may have suffered but the squats worked for me very well. No more soreness when I work out and my legs are much stronger.

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              #16
              What is the purpose of doing squats as regards boxing? How often do you see a boxer squat in the ring? Practice squats, but only to the extent that you see boxers bend their legs in actual fights. That's all the strength you need. Not that there's anything wrong with squatting, but it takes a lot of energy you could be using to develop fighting skills.....

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                #17
                Originally posted by yrrej View Post
                What is the purpose of doing squats as regards boxing? How often do you see a boxer squat in the ring? Practice squats, but only to the extent that you see boxers bend their legs in actual fights. That's all the strength you need. Not that there's anything wrong with squatting, but it takes a lot of energy you could be using to develop fighting skills.....
                not alot but for my style i do do lot of squating and coming up with shots. takes a toll on your legs

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Kid Achilles View Post
                  I don't havr very good knees, I wonder if squats with light weights could build the muscles around them up some.
                  Absolutely. I fractures both kneecaps in a car wreck when I was 22. I started lifting weights on the advice of my physical therapist once I got out. I have arthritis in both knees, now; if I don't squat, the winters here (cold + damp) are really bad for me. Having strong quads keeps my weight off the joints, which helps a lot.

                  Vers, you should have known better than to have asked this question. Christ, look at your physique! I know you lift weights; I saw that camera phone video of you putting up 195 on the bench and your form was perfect. So you should already know that squats are just about the best overall exercise you can do, whatever sport you're in. A properly-performed deep squat works 75% of the muscles in your body. Deep squats build coordination, balance, flexibility, functional strength, and explosive power. Professional athletes from NFL linemen to figure skaters use the squat as the foundation of their weight training.

                  Yes, yrrej, boxers don't bend their knees clear down into full-squat position. But half-squats are bad for your knees and can be very bad for your back. Stopping and starting the squatting motion with the thighs above parallel places tremendous strain on the ligaments of the knee, and when changing direction in the middle of the motion, one tends to cheat the weight and "bounce," which puts a load on the lower back and compresses the spine, which is extremely dangerous. You need to go to the bottom of the motion, rest for a moment until there is no further downward motion from the bar or your body, and then press back up. A similar, but opposite, motion to a dead-hang chin-up.

                  I hate to sound like a schmuck, but is there anyone else on this site -- hell, in this sport -- who actually knows and understands weightlifting as it pertains to athletic training? I feel like I'm writing the same posts every couple of weeks.

                  You all would seriously -- SERIOUSLY -- do very well to drop over to , check out the articles on fat loss and sports training, watch the videos of the lifts performed properly, and start to learn the science of athletic training. I'm not suggesting that you take up bodybuilding, but even the casual fratboy gym rat taking NOXplode and pumping his biceps is lightyears beyond most boxers I've ever met when it comes to the cutting edge of emerging athletic-performance science. EDIT: It's enlightening to talk to a guy who looks like he can't spell, but who can talk your ear off about nitrogen retention, hydration, glycogen depletion, ATP, vanadyl sulfate supplementation vs. gylcemic index mapping, and the finer points of protein intake. And yet at my gym, boxers still argue over the pros and cons of Gatorade.

                  I do believe that a certified athletic trainer, with a background in exercise physiology, a finger on the pulse of athletic science, and a love of boxing, would make a killing in this game.

                  Maybe I should switch careers.
                  Last edited by fraidycat; 01-15-2007, 02:21 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by fraidycat View Post
                    Absolutely. I fractures both kneecaps in a car wreck when I was 22. I started lifting weights on the advice of my physical therapist once I got out. I have arthritis in both knees, now; if I don't squat, the winters here (cold + damp) are really bad for me. Having strong quads keeps my weight off the joints, which helps a lot.

                    Vers, you should have known better than to have asked this question. Christ, look at your physique! I know you lift weights; I saw that camera phone video of you putting up 195 on the bench and your form was perfect. So you should already know that squats are just about the best overall exercise you can do, whatever sport you're in. A properly-performed deep squat works 75% of the muscles in your body. Deep squats build coordination, balance, flexibility, functional strength, and explosive power. Professional athletes from NFL linemen to figure skaters use the squat as the foundation of their weight training.

                    Yes, yrrej, boxers don't bend their knees clear down into full-squat position. But half-squats are bad for your knees and can be very bad for your back. Stopping and starting the squatting motion with the thighs above parallel places tremendous strain on the ligaments of the knee, and when changing direction in the middle of the motion, one tends to cheat the weight and "bounce," which puts a load on the lower back and compresses the spine, which is extremely dangerous. You need to go to the bottom of the motion, rest for a moment until there is no further downward motion from the bar or your body, and then press back up. A similar, but opposite, motion to a dead-hang chin-up.

                    I hate to sound like a schmuck, but is there anyone else on this site -- hell, in this sport -- who actually knows and understands weightlifting as it pertains to athletic training? I feel like I'm writing the same posts every couple of weeks.

                    You all would seriously -- SERIOUSLY -- do very well to drop over to , check out the articles on fat loss and sports training, watch the videos of the lifts performed properly, and start to learn the science of athletic training. I'm not suggesting that you take up bodybuilding, but even the casual fratboy gym rat taking NOXplode and pumping his biceps is lightyears beyond most boxers I've ever met when it comes to the cutting edge of emerging athletic-performance science. At my gym, boxers still argue over the pros and cons of Gatorade.

                    I do believe that a certified athletic trainer, with a background in exercise physiology, a finger on the pulse of athletic science, and a love of boxing, would make a killing in this game.

                    Maybe I should switch careers.

                    ahahaha actually i dont lift weights i took that video to show an old poster that i can do it he didnt believe i could nor did he believe my friend who weighs 140 could neither. and that weight was 225lb. im just born the way i am.its rare i guess but yeah im just born like this. i gain muscle rapidly fast.reason why i dont lift weights

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7 View Post
                      ahahaha actually i dont lift weights i took that video to show an old poster that i can do it he didnt believe i could nor did he believe my friend who weighs 140 could neither. and that weight was 225lb. im just born the way i am.its rare i guess but yeah im just born like this. i gain muscle rapidly fast.reason why i dont lift weights
                      ****er. I worked for years to look like you. A long time ago, mind you.

                      Squat. Learn how and do it right. It'll help your boxing.

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