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    #51
    There is certainly nothing wrong with putting him in the top 10. He's one of the many that has an argument to be in the back half.

    He's not great, but he's really good. His counterpunching and combinations are top notch, and his defense is fairly good.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Bardock View Post
      Why take risks when you can outbox the boxer and show how good your skills are with superior counter punching and defense.
      I can't believe Cotto never went down from any of those uppercuts Alvarez landed like the one in your sig.

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        #53
        Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
        Absolutely.

        I mean, why not?

        How many current fighters are performing at a very high level and sport a resume with better wins than Lara, Cotto and Trout?
        To the eyes of the wider public, every single one of these fights could have gone either way. In two of those cases, the scorecards did not reflect the fight at all.

        Its hard to say hes an exceptional talent when hes not decisively winning...

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          #54
          He's definetly in my top 10

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            #55
            i got him just behind TBE

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              #56
              Originally posted by techliam View Post
              To the eyes of the wider public, every single one of these fights could have gone either way. In two of those cases, the scorecards did not reflect the fight at all.

              Its hard to say hes an exceptional talent when hes not decisively winning...
              Cotto could have gone either way? It was a clear victory.

              I thought the Trout fight was a close but clear win.

              Only 'either way' fight was Lara IMO.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                Is Canelo on your p4p list..

                The kid now has wins over trout, Lara, Cotto, and only lost to floyd

                And people don't realize he also has two wins as a teenager over future lightweight champ Miguel Vasquez


                I can't name too many fighters with names like Lara and Cotto on their ledger
                No, he isn't. Simply because I thought his win over Lara was better and tha tstill didn't get him a plate at the big table. I can see him sneaking into the bottom half of the top 10 but most likely top 20/

                Canelo is very good, especially for someone his age but against the best, he hasn't ever clearly taken a win over the best names. Great fighters always beat top fighters clearly at the very least once or twice. Canelo has yet to do that.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                  I can't believe Cotto never went down from any of those uppercuts Alvarez landed like the one in your sig.
                  canelo's never been a huge puncher. kirkland has one of the worst chins in boxing history. its seth mitchell bad.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
                    Cotto could have gone either way? It was a clear victory.

                    I thought the Trout fight was a close but clear win.

                    Only 'either way' fight was Lara IMO.
                    I dont think Cotto was as close as Trout/Lara, but it was a close affair. We'll see what the wider audience's scorecards are shortly

                    Forgive me for not caring about your individual take on both Lara/Trout. Nearly all observers were split on who won those fights. Had he won against Trout and Lara decisively, thered be no debate as to whether he belongs on a p4p list .. But he could easily have 3 losses

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                      Your hero Bradley says he's the best and smartest fighter in the world
                      Bradley is being modest because he couldn't really say that stuff about himself and not seem like an arsehole.

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