Boxing requires very little sporting talent

[kafkod]

I would say Fake Paul's boxing career to date proves the exact opposite of what you're saying here.

Think about it ... Fake got into boxing as a young, naturally fit and quite athletic guy with millions of $$$ in the bank. Enough $$$ to hire a world class trainer as his personal coach and pay to train in high end gyms alongside bona fide world class boxers. And he's smart, with a high work ethic and bags of determination, otherwise he wouldn't have all those $$$ in the bank.

And after 7 years dedicated training, with all those advantages, Fake, if he was based in the UK, would be fighting at area title level .. at best. He lost to Tommy Fury, ffs!

Sure, he just beat a former world champion. But mate, it was JC Chavez Jr. You know .. marijuana smoking, coke snorting, junk food gorging, mental health problems having, JC Chavez Jr!

[kafkod]

Which snooker player ever reached the top level without picking up a cue until adulthood

Which premier league footballer never kicked a ball until 18???? Jamie Vardy was in Sheff Wed's youth system since he was a kid and got releases at 16.

You're talking nonsense lad


You've had world champ heavyweights that never boxed until they're adults lol

I'm talking about people who literally never participated in the sport until adulthood. Only boxing and MMA fall into the category of people becoming champs when taking it up as adults. Because the talent level of these sports are much lower

He isn't competing at top level though. If he was a footballer he would be a million miles away from the Premier League, a trillion miles away from The Crucible if he was a snooker player.

Boxing and MMA are different than other sports. Some guys are just born fighters, for reasons which have little do with athletic ability or talent. They are more physically resilient than normal guys, they can take a lot of physical punishment and keep coming, and they have a vicious streak, which most people don't have and which wouldn't give them any advantage in other sports, even if they did have it.

[kafkod]

Very interesting perspective. Boxing is a joke.

I'll tell you what the real joke is ... the WBA just installed Fake at number 14 in their rankings.

[Willow The Wisp]

There are many good points that have been brought up here in defense of the toughest sport in the world that you can't tap out in.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the fact that experience, critical in all sports, and indeed all professions, has a unique twist for Boxing. In boxing, every fight you have produces some measure of injury to your body, and experience, extended out; reaches a line of demarcation, and produces diminished returns!

There is no way around that.
Too much experience, and your body will cross a line, where your additional experience isn't worth the damage you've acumulatively taken; seen or unseen.

A perfect example of this is seen when many of the "forever amateur" Cubans wait too long to turn pro. With 200, even 300 short amateur fights, they make certain that they know the craft like Nobody’s business; but they've simply had too much "experience", and discover that their physiology has received too much trauma to make it in the pros.

The same thing occurs in what we used to call the "Mary Sports" like Basketball; but for obvious reasons, it occurs at a much slower pace.
Hence the longer years of exposure being the best way for them.

I think the OP was lacking such fundamental understandings when he vented his disappointment at Tyson and Chavez failing to win against the showman; but they both went to the bank on account of the Paul Brothers circus. Tyson bought another massive castle, regardless of how smart that turns out to be; and I don't even want to think about what Junior's plans are for the lifetime fortune that he's just made.

Jon Jones the Mixed Martial Arts superstar, one of the best AND most popular MMA stars produced in that prize fighting sport's short 32 year history, had a total career earnings of just 14.2 million dollars, and he's apparently through now. So don't ever say that life has to be fair.

I think that this thread has been blead out at this point.