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    #31
    Originally posted by daggum View Post

    so hes the hardest puncher despite all the evidence proving otherwise because you say so? this is why we use stats, so we dont have to rely on your subjectivity. i dont know how you could say my argument is racist or anti-american since i didnt mention either of those things? guess that would just be a distraction tactic since the stats i listed completely destroy your argument about him being some huge puncher but your hyperbole is making me laugh so thank you
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      #32
      Originally posted by daggum View Post

      so hes the hardest puncher despite all the evidence proving otherwise because you say so? this is why we use stats, so we dont have to rely on your subjectivity. i dont know how you could say my argument is racist or anti-american since i didnt mention either of those things? guess that would just be a distraction tactic since the stats i listed completely destroy your argument about him being some huge puncher but your hyperbole is making me laugh so thank you
      More silliness. The building of your theory based on ignoring all the facts, inventing new ones and on shameless criticism... Pretty sure that is driven by something that's not good; and it's probably racism. Fortunately, we have experts on the subject of boxing who post here, able to objectively, analytically asses the relative merits of a fighter's career; who can run interference on people's racism.
      Wilder, because of his amazing power and how he was able to put it to work in defending successful against so many WBC top 10 contenders; is a hall of fame bound fighter; the highest honor obtainable in combat sports.
      Even if he is an outspoken black American.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

        More silliness. The building of your theory based on ignoring all the facts, inventing new ones and on shameless criticism... Pretty sure that is driven by something that's not good; and it's probably racism. Fortunately, we have experts on the subject of boxing who post here, able to objectively, analytically asses the relative merits of a fighter's career; who can run interference on people's racism.
        Wilder, because of his amazing power and how he was able to put it to work in defending successful against so many WBC top 10 contenders; is a hall of fame bound fighter; the highest honor obtainable in combat sports.
        Even if he is an outspoken black American.
        you are the one ignoring facts and race baiting. fact is wilder only beat 2 top 10 ring ranked opponents. ring rankings hold much more credibility, expertise, consensus, then you, you are just 1 guy on a site who is clearly biased based on the hyperbolic screeds you write. maybe some of them are biased as well, sure, but thats why you have a ton of people all getting together to reach a consensus, and when they do they find wilders opponents were crap, which they were. the crazy fanboys like you are cancelled out due to the size of the pool.

        you are the one who is not objectively analyzing his career based on the merits. you are the one making up silly criteria like beating wbc top 10 contenders as if thats some indication of the quality of a fighter? you know who was in their top 10? eric molina? gerald washington? spilzka? arreola? duhapas? etc...all top 10...so that destroys their credibility on which you are relying. those guys were all with the pbc so you ignoring that fact is strange. its pretty clear when you zoom out pbc and wbc were in cahoots to give wilder easy opponents. you can look at how they ducked whyte and installed breazele as mandatory to confirm that. they wanted no part of guys outside pbc except stirverne who was shot to pieces and owed a rematch. thats the only guy they fought until fury that was outside pbc, and when wilder went outside pbc he was destroyed over and over. pretty clear what was going on to anyone not a complete fanboy. they were protecting a very vulnerable fighter who simply could not compete with the top of the division.
        Last edited by daggum; 04-03-2025, 02:40 PM.

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          #34
          Using the Nash machine, which is an all-in-one boxing dream machine, Nash lined up to take a punch from all the great punchers in history and current, in their primes. The only man that could even budge the Great Nash was Deontay Wilder's massive right hand. This confirms officially that Wilder is the hardest puncher of all time. Case closed. Nash out - His Most Majestic Majesty

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            #35
            Originally posted by Nash out View Post
            Using the Nash machine, which is an all-in-one boxing dream machine, Nash lined up to take a punch from all the great punchers in history and current, in their primes. The only man that could even budge the Great Nash was Deontay Wilder's massive right hand. This confirms officially that Wilder is the hardest puncher of all time. Case closed. Nash out - His Most Majestic Majesty
            yet he couldnt hurt 147 pound non boxer charlie zelenoff

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              #36
              I guess he hits pretty hard, but he needs all the space in the world to throw the right hand. He was useless against skilled fighters that managed to close the distance.

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                #37
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                I guess he hits pretty hard, but he needs all the space in the world to throw the right hand. He was useless against skilled fighters that managed to close the distance.
                You sure about that, look at Helenius ko, been others like that where he has ko'd the opponent with a short quick up close with not much space

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                  #38
                  Yes with the overhand right. Doesn't have the same power with a left hook or an uppercut, but have him load up on the right hand and throw it with conviction it's hard to find a harder punch in boxing.

                  And just FYI, not liking the guy personally has no bearing on his punching power. This always has to be pointed out to boxing fans no matter what the subject matter is.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

                    You sure about that, look at Helenius ko, been others like that where he has ko'd the opponent with a short quick up close with not much space
                    or the malik scott fight. devastating

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

                      You sure about that, look at Helenius ko, been others like that where he has ko'd the opponent with a short quick up close with not much space
                      I said skilled guys. Parker, Zhang, Fury. Helenius is Wilder`s sparring partner.

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