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    #21
    Originally posted by The D3vil View Post

    How many times do we have to go through this.

    Richard Tower, who sparred with The Klitschkos, Joshua, & everybody else, said Wilder hit a LOT harder than any of them.

    David Haye, who sparred with Wilder & a bunch of others, said that Wilder hits harder than anybody else.

    Just about everybody who fought/sparred Wilder said he hit harder than anybody they've ever been in the ring with

    Only the "haters" claim he doesn't hit hard.

    Hitting hard doesn't necessarily mean you'll beat everybody. Earnie Shavers was (before Wilder) considered almost universally the hardest hitter in boxing history & he only beat contenders & lost all the big fights he had.




    yeah everyone said shavers hit harder than foreman but if you looked at their records you wouldnt think so. And thats because foreman was the more dangerous guy in a lot of ways. He got thumping power in both hands even with short compact punches, he got power even when hes tired, hes physically larger and stronger so he can push guys into position to control his space ect


    wilder hits really hard but its just one punch, its just a right hand and he needs space to throw it. Fury figured out he was better smothering him than trying to outbox him from the outside and risk the right hand.

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      #22
      Duhaupas doesn't think so; didn't go down even once, yet got hit all night.
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        #23
        Originally posted by BoxOfficer View Post
        Duhaupas doesn't think so; didn't go down even once, yet got hit all night.
        Perhaps he didn't get the PBC memo.

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          #24
          One way to measure a boxer's power is to check how it measures against guys with renowned chins; guys who can take a punch and don't go down too much or at all.

          Another way is to see how other fighters deal with the same fighters.

          Szpilka, a very limited fighter, not know for his chin, went down against Wilder in devastating fashion in the 9th after taking a few CLEAN yet ineffective shots in the earlier rounds.

          The same Szpilka got knocked out in the 2nd round against Chisora of all people in yet another frightening fashion. I can go on and on about other opponents. Don't tell me his chin (which he doesn't have, to begin with) cracked after the earlier fight; it doesn't work like that in every single case, and that would be speculative, at best.

          Bottom line is, if Wilder had knocked out/down Parker and Zhang (both guys have proven chins) in a similar fashion to how he did those 30+ guys, then his power wouldn't have been questioned. But then, his defenders will say he was shot (yet another convenient alibi), which is, again, speculative at best. Some would say, he didn't connect against those guys, which isn't true because he did, not on many occasions, but he did. Remember, he needs just one second, so they say.

          By the way, Zhang left no doubt about his own power with the way he knocked out Joyce; that's the way you prove it.
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            #25
            Originally posted by daggum View Post

            that was hilarious and is probably the biggest red flag. charlie took his best shot and his head was totally clear, got knocked down sure but was fine. all the pbc bums he fought were probably told "make it look legit" everyone did their duty cept malik scott he was terrible
            For all we know everyone pushed as a big star is part of a racket, if they offered me alot more money to make a star look good, I'd taken if I was in the position or had the talent to do the opposite.

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              #26
              He hits quite hard but not as hard as zhang. It's mostly wilder speed and punch you don't see he catches you with
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                #27
                He hits hard enough to KO anybody with the right hand, if he has the space and time to set it up. But you could say the same thing about many other HWs, eg, Chisora, and nobody ever called Del Boy the hardest puncher of all time. Wilder's power was/is real, but over-rated due to the sheer number of C/D level guys he iced throughout his title reign.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Smash View Post
                  hes a savage did u miss what he did to that mascot guy devastating

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                  Damn! I take back what I just said. Nobody, not even Foreman or Shavers, ever destroyed a mascot with one punch like that!
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post

                    too bad wilders record confirms he doesnt. doesnt matter what fury says. its called saving face after getting dropped by a non skilled fighter. ngannou dropped fury. usyk had him completely gone as well. is usyk a hard hitter? are steven cunningham and more etc...no of course not. fury just gets dropped a lot which is why you have to actually use a big sample size and look at wilders record and it shows his power was massively overrated and largely dissapeared against the best opponents he fought which is why he only has 2 ko's against 8 top 10 ring ranked opponents and those 2 kos came against the same guy. just not impressive at all and utterly laughable to say hes up there with the biggest punchers ever when his ko ratio is worse than almost all of the best heavyweights in history and those guys fought competition which was much better than wilder and yet they still have better ko ratios

                    A racist or anti-American viewpoint as always.
                    But if you'd seen him live and watched him train, as I have; and seen the majority of other top Heavyweights who've earned the spot during the last half century, as I have; you'd have quite an awakening.

                    Yes indeed. Wilder was this generations top puncher among all combat sports, all weight classes.

                    One of the dozen or so hardest hitting humans to ever live. No question about it.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post


                      A racist or anti-American viewpoint as always.
                      But if you'd seen him live and watched him train, as I have; and seen the majority of other top Heavyweights who've earned the spot during the last half century, as I have; you'd have quite an awakening.

                      Yes indeed. Wilder was this generations top puncher among all combat sports, all weight classes.

                      One of the dozen or so hardest hitting humans to ever live. No question about it.
                      so hes the hardest puncher despite all the evidence proving otherwise because you say so? this is why we use stats, so we dont have to rely on your subjectivity. i dont know how you could say my argument is racist or anti-american since i didnt mention either of those things? guess that would just be a distraction tactic since the stats i listed completely destroy your argument about him being some huge puncher but your hyperbole is making me laugh so thank you

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