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    #71
    Flip is maybe overated by many, but the division is a bit unproven with everyone not having swappped dance partners. Usyk is good but hes not fought Fury or wilder and many others. Fury only fought Wilder. Lots of question marks.
    Last edited by hugh grant; 11-25-2023, 01:37 PM.

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      #72
      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
      Alright I’m done here I’ll let you have the last word because your such a little Mary , have fun trolling .
      Last word? Alright then. juggernaut666 is a puff who couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag!

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        #73
        He probably wouldn't be had Joyce beat Zhang in the very first fight. Hrgovic managed to tough it out with the Chinese HW. That's what mostly in fans' minds.
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          #74
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

          There is no top 4.

          Fury arguably lost to a f.ucking UFC guy.
          Till some actually rather than "arguably" beat him, he's part of the top 4. This is boxing and while skills count a lot, size and raw power remains a substantial asset in any combat sport. Ngannou is a big, strong man and a world champion...not just any ****ing UFC guy. And it is not the first time Fury has underperformed. And to be top 4, you have to be better than the rest which is a relative term, not an absolute one.

          Who else has the achievements of the top 4?

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            #75
            Originally posted by Zelda View Post

            Till some actually rather than "arguably" beat him, he's part of the top 4. This is boxing and while skills count a lot, size and raw power remains a substantial asset in any combat sport. Ngannou is a big, strong man and a world champion...not just any ****ing UFC guy. And it is not the first time Fury has underperformed. And to be top 4, you have to be better than the rest which is a relative term, not an absolute one.

            Who else has the achievements of the top 4?
            Again, I am not so sure that "top 4" beat everybody else. Your fantasy wins don`t count.

            Fury only beat Whyte, Wilder and Wallin, who was unranked than.

            Joshua lost to Usyk 2x, to Ruiz also.

            Wilder only beat Stiverne, Ortiz.

            Usyk only beat Joshua, Dubois.

            All these 4 have a lot to prove still.

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              #76
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

              Again, I am not so sure that "top 4" beat everybody else. Your fantasy wins don`t count.

              Fury only beat Whyte, Wilder and Wallin, who was unranked than.

              Joshua lost to Usyk 2x, to Ruiz also.

              Wilder only beat Stiverne, Ortiz.

              Usyk only beat Joshua, Dubois.

              All these 4 have a lot to prove still.
              You told us how bad the top-4 are but the question was who else is better than them?
              Fury is a current undefeated HW champion
              Usyk is a current undefeated HW champion
              Joshua is a former HW champion who has defended his title multiple times
              Wilder is a former HW champion who has defended his title multiple times

              As I said, it is a top-4 so it is a relative term, not an absolute one. Who else can lay a claim that they deserve to be a top-4? Parker? Martin? Ruiz? And outside of Joshua, no one has been beaten by someone outside of this group but Ruiz has nothing else to show for. So, who's making fantasy fights here?

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