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    DLH's letter to Floyd

    Hi all, Just saw this on BJ Penn's site and I decided to copy and paste it here, comments and arguments welcome

    From Oscar De La Hoya to Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Dear Floyd:

    You did it. You made it to the 49–0 mark, a milestone that you like to say only the great Rocky Marciano reached but that was actually achieved by others, including my idol Julio C�sar Ch�vez—but who’s counting? And now you’re retiring. Again. (The first time was after our fight in 2007.) This time you say it’s for real. You’re serious about hanging up the gloves. On to bigger and better things. So I’m writing to you today to wish you a fond farewell. Truth be told, I’m not unhappy to see you retire. Neither are a lot of boxing fans. Scratch that. MOST boxing fans. Why? Because the fight game will be a better one without you in it.

    Let’s face it: You were boring. Just take a look at your most recent performance, your last hurrah in the ring, a 12-round decision against Andre Berto. How to describe it? A bust? A disaster? A snooze fest? An affair so one-sided that on one judge’s card Berto didn’t win a single round? Everyone in boxing knew Berto didn’t have a chance. I think more people watched Family Guy reruns that night than tuned in to that pay-per-view bout. But I didn’t mind shelling out $75 for the HD broadcast. In fact it’s been a great investment. When my kids have trouble falling asleep, I don’t have to read to them anymore. I just play them your Berto fight. They don’t make it past round three.

    Another reason boxing is better off without you: You were afraid. Afraid of taking chances. Afraid of risk. A perfect example is your greatest “triumph,” the long-awaited record-breaking fight between you and Manny Pacquiao. Nearly 4.5 million buys! More than $400 million in revenue! Headlines worldwide! How can that be bad for boxing? Because you lied. You promised action and entertainment and a battle for the ages, and you delivered none of the above. The problem is, that’s precisely how you want it. You should have fought Pacquiao five years ago, not five months ago. That, however, would have been too dangerous. Too risky. You’ve made a career out of being cautious. You won’t get in the ring unless you have an edge. Sure, you fought some big names. But they were past their prime. Hell, even when we fought in 2007—and I barely lost a split decision—I was at the tail end of my career. Then later you took on Mexican megastar Sa�l “Canelo” �lvarez, but he was too young and had to drop too much weight.

    Me? I got into this business to take chances. I took on all comers in their prime. The evidence? I lost. Six times. After 31 wins, my first loss was to F�lix Trinidad, and I learned a valuable lesson that is true both in the ring and in life: Don’t run. I didn’t stop taking on the best of the best. After beating Derrell Coley, I took on “Sugar” Shane Mosley at the height of his powers—undefeated and considered by many to be the pound-for-pound best in the world. Again, I lost. After four wins against more top-ranked fighters I took on Mosley again. We can debate who actually won the rematch, but the judges had me losing that one as well.

    Did I go easy after that? No. I moved up to middleweight to win a belt and faced one of the greatest middleweights of all time, Bernard Hopkins. After a body shot that I’m still feeling took me out of the fight, I took on two more guys at the height of their power who, many years later, would finally face each other at the ages of 36 and 38—Manny Pacquiao and you. When fighters do that—when they risk losing—that’s when everyone wins. The mantra of my firm Golden Boy Promotions is simple: the best taking on the best. It’s too bad you didn’t do the same.

    You took the easy way out. When you weren’t dancing around fading stars (show idea for you: Dancing Around the Fading Stars), you were beating up on outclassed opponents. A lot of your opponents were above-average fighters, but they weren’t your caliber. You’re a very talented fighter, the best defensive fighter of our generation. But what good is talent if you don’t test it? Muhammad Ali did. Sugar Ray Leonard did. You? Not a chance. You spent 2000 to 2010 facing forgettable opening acts like Victoriano Sosa, Phillip N’dou, DeMarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles and Sharmba Mitchell. There were guys out there—tough scary opponents like Antonio Margarito and Paul Williams—but you ran from them. Were you ever on the track team in high school? You would have been a star.

    Boxing will also be a better place without the Mouth. Your mouth, to be precise, the one that created “Money” Mayweather. I know you needed that Money Mayweather persona. Before he—and Golden Boy Promotions—came along, nobody watched your fights. You couldn’t even sell out your hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. The Mouth made you money. More money than you could spend in a lifetime. (Wait, I’ve seen those episodes of 24/7. You probably will spend it all.) But the Mouth doesn’t have a place in boxing; save it for the WWE. Unless you’re someone like Ali, whose fights were as scintillating as his banter, the all-talk, no-entertainment model cheapens our sport. Boxers should speak with their fists and with their hearts. They don’t have to say anything to prove themselves. You’re going to have a legacy. You’ll be remembered as the guy who made the most money. As for your fights? We’ve already forgotten them.

    Now that you’re stepping aside, attention can be turned to the sport’s real stars: the brawlers, the brave, the boxers who want nothing more than to face the best and therefore be the best. There’s Canelo, Kazakh KO sensation Gennady Golovkin, ferocious flyweight Rom�n Gonz�lez, slugger Sergey Kovalev and a host of up-and-comers including Terence Crawford, Vasyl Lomachenko and Keith Thurman. Want to see what a monster fight looks like? Canelo takes on Miguel Cotto on November 21. It won’t do 4.4 million in PPV buys, but everyone who watches it will be thrilled. And that’s no empty promise.

    You’re moving on to a new phase of life now, a second act. I’m sure it will be nice not to have to train year-round. To get out of the gym and spend time with your family. But I’m wondering what you’re going to do. You have a lot of time and, at the moment, a lot of money. Maybe you’ll put your true skills to work and open a used-car dealership or run a circus. Or maybe you’ll wind up back on Dancing With the Stars. It’s a job that’s safe, pays well and lets you run around on stage. Something you’ve been doing for most of your career.

    14
    Absolutely Floyd was BORING
    50.00%
    7
    for the most part
    28.57%
    4
    just a bit of it
    21.43%
    3
    I am a Floyd fanboy
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by McGoorty; 11-15-2015, 08:08 AM.

    #2
    Personally I really enjoyed and agreed with everything Oscar said and it also helped Oscar rise in my personal estimation of him.

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      #3
      I enjoyed watching Mayweather's fights.

      Did I ever purchase them as PPV? No.

      I am not emotionally vested in Mayweather as De La Hoya is.

      Many of the points he raises I'm not sure how valid they are.

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        #4
        Originally posted by joeandthebums View Post
        I enjoyed watching Mayweather's fights.

        Did I ever purchase them as PPV? No.

        I am not emotionally vested in Mayweather as De La Hoya is.

        Many of the points he raises I'm not sure how valid they are.
        I think there may be some emotion there but Oscar earned the right tenfold to say what he wanted.

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          #5
          I enjoyed Floyd's fights as well. This sounds like sour g****s from Oscar.

          Incidentally, I found it insulting to our sport that he would put Ronda Rousey on the cover of Ring magazine. If he wanted to feature a pretty lady it would have been more fitting to put Holly Holm on there. She at least was a former boxer and could have used the boost in notoriety.

          Not that she needs it anymore, of course. She just blasted out Rousey and has the world at her feet now.

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            #6
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            I enjoyed Floyd's fights as well. This sounds like sour g****s from Oscar.

            Incidentally, I found it insulting to our sport that he would put Ronda Rousey on the cover of Ring magazine. If he wanted to feature a pretty lady it would have been more fitting to put Holly Holm on there. She at least was a former boxer and could have used the boost in notoriety.

            Not that she needs it anymore, of course. She just blasted out Rousey and has the world at her feet now.
            After Castillo, and Corrales, many of Floyd's fights were boring. I don't watch UFC, but I am not a fan of Oscar De La Hoya who makes every bloody fight a PPV. I was not a fan of him as a fighter either. True Julio Caesar Chavez eclipsed the mark of Rocky Marciano, Unlike Marciano, and Ricardo Lopez, Chavez could not maintain the undefeated mark throughout his career.
            Last edited by boxingnut712; 11-15-2015, 12:53 PM.

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              #7
              The Marciano record was a "Heavyweight" mark not really an overall accomplishment. Some how over the past years its been a allied with Floyd, good marketing by him. Sugar Ray strung together two 80-0 markes in his career so 49 -0 doesnt exactly toot anyones horn.
              Larry Holmes going after Marciano's record was a big deal because he was a heavyweight.

              Mayweather was a bore and the reason why is he was the Promoter, Manager, Matchmaker, Trainer and Fighter!
              I agree with Oscar, however Oscar had him beat and let him off. Yes Oscar was beyond his best but a major effort the last 5 rounds of their bout couldn't have had a huge influence on the way Mayweathers career carried on. That loss would have opened up the fans appreciation for Floyds talents because he would have displayed MORE of them. Mayweather had the tools to do more he just choose to be counter puncher against hand picked opponents he knew couldn't handle that defense.

              Now Oscar just sounds like sour g****s anyway. He would have been fine if Floyd shared some of the events with Golden Boy production.

              The letter at this time just sounds pathetic, let it go its history and its time for boxing to take the high road. This coming year we need to see all the top contenders taking chances against one another.
              Brook vs Khan
              Porter vs Broner
              Thurman vs Bradley
              Canelo/Coto vs GGG
              Koval vs Stevenson
              etc..............if theres great matches from some of these pairing we can get rematches with intrique instead of obvious results.
              Ray
              Last edited by Ray Corso; 11-15-2015, 01:22 PM.

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                #8
                I think Oscar should stfu. Floyd's career is over (I hope). Its really not for him as a leading promotor of today to bash the greatest fighter (arguably) of this generation. History and historians should pass the judgement. Sure Oscar is entitled to his opinion but presenting them this way makes it look like sour g****s.

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                  #9
                  I used to have a lot of respect for Oscar... but this open letter is cringeworthy!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bundana View Post
                    I used to have a lot of respect for Oscar... but this open letter is cringeworthy!
                    your being too hard on the guy...We should not speak ill of things we all do, as normal guys who may not appreciate another individual... You can only knock Oscar if:

                    You have never written a letter like this...

                    While relaxing in a hot tub....

                    with your favorite lingeria waiting....

                    whoops never mind!!!

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