Ranking Floyd Patterson Above Lennox Lewis, Can It Be Justified?

[Scott9945]

Oh yes i am hearing you both yet i think it is the other way around... you keep claiming i have an agenda with Lewis and if so then tell me what i have said about Lewis which is incorrect:

1/. was he stripped of all belts for refusing to fight the No1 contenders.... yes or no?

Lewis was the unified champion after beating Holyfield. His last fight was a successful defense against Vitali. He retired as the WBC champion. So obviously he wasn't stripped of all his belts. Luckily for Patterson they didn't take away titles for not fighting top contenders or he would have lost his title(s) plenty.

[joseph5620]

LEWIS CHIN
Against which other fighters in their entire career did Rahman & McCall poleaxe an opponent in the way that Lewis went down and out from their punch?

McCall and Rahman knocked out plenty of fighters. How many top fighters did Rademacher drop like he did Patterson?

[sonnyboyx2]

Lewis was the unified champion after beating Holyfield. His last fight was a successful defense against Vitali. He retired as the WBC champion. So obviously he wasn't stripped of all his belts. Luckily for Patterson they didn't take away titles for not fighting top contenders or he would have lost his title(s) plenty.

i have won this argument hands-down and you know it.. you have not once put up any kind of case to back up anything you say.

Kid McCoy claimed Lewis was "Dominant" -- when?

[Scott9945]

why does it hurt you so much to answer my question with a yes or a NO

i have won this argument hands-down and you know it.. you have not once put up any kind of case to back up anything you say.

Kid McCoy claimed Lewis was "Dominant" -- when?

I thought that my response made it obvious. NO, Lewis was not stripped of the WBC title. Next question...

[Kid McCoy]

so it is ok for McCoy & Scott to mock me but not the other way around eh?

when i set out my stall on this thread i made sure that everything i wrote was backed up with facts and links etc my case for Patterson was water-tight.. McCoy & Scott produced not a single shred of proof to base their case for Lewis on other than height, size & weight yet i knew that you would take there side but i am cool with that at least i know where we stand in the future.

My case was for Patterson was built on title defense's, quality of opponents who was "at the top of their game", longevity & skills yet you dismissed it immediately, so i asked you to put up your case for Lewis and so far you have declined, which i put down to you not having a case to put forward.

The case has been made lots of times by me and others here. But you just ignore anything that challenges your myopic view of Lewis and carry on spouting the same stuff.

Okay Floyd’s title defences. I assume you’re only giving credit for successful defences, so here goes.

Tommy Jackson
Pete Rademacher
Roy Harris
Brian London
Ingemar Johansson
Tom McNeeley

Hardly a murderers’ row. In fact downright mediocre. The only top opponent there is Johansson and he was hardly Jack Dempsey.

My question: Do you think Rademacher, Harris, London and McNeeley were deserving title challengers?

[Greg House]

Damn, this thread is sonnyboyx2 Vs the whole world.

I guess Patterson shouldn't be ranked above Lewis.

[GJC]

well this say's it all about you and your knowledge of boxing history.. How many european champions fought for the heavyweight title - more than a dozen and against almost every heavyweight champion throughout history...

Won't rehash our differences on other points but that's not accurate Sonny.

[sonnyboyx2]

Won't rehash our differences on other points but that's not accurate Sonny.

Cooper
London
Evangelista
Carnera
Rodriguez
Coopmans
Farr
****ell
Johansson
Dunn
Bugner
Blin
Mildenberger
Tangsted
Zanon

These off just the top of my head.. Do you want me to continue?

[sonnyboyx2]

The case has been made lots of times by me and others here. But you just ignore anything that challenges your myopic view of Lewis and carry on spouting the same stuff.

Okay Floyd�s title defences. I assume you�re only giving credit for successful defences, so here goes.

Tommy Jackson
Pete Rademacher
Roy Harris
Brian London
Ingemar Johansson
Tom McNeeley

Hardly a murderers?row. In fact downright mediocre. The only top opponent there is Johansson and he was hardly Jack Dempsey.

My question: Do you think Rademacher, Harris, London and McNeeley were deserving title challengers?

Lennox Lewis career as champion1992-2000
a belt out of the bin in 1992 which he defended against Tucker, Jackson & Bruno before being poleaxed by McCall in 1994 then in 1997 he fought for a vacant belt against McCall in a farcical fight, defended it against 4 mediocre opponents and in 1999 fought a draw for the undisputed title against Holyfield winning a rematch on 13.11.1999
Do you agree or disagree with the above statement?

[GJC]

Cooper
London
Evangelista
Carnera
Rodriguez
Coopmans
Farr
****ell
Johansson
Dunn
Bugner
Blin
Mildenberger
Tangsted
Zanon

These off just the top of my head.. Do you want me to continue?

Please do, being European and a boxer isn't the same as holding the European title. Lets ignore the post Paterson fighters for the moment, don't think Farr, Carnera or ****ell were European champions?