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    #41
    Tyson was the most dominant fighter during the 80's. The only other boxer to do for the sport what he did was Ali, and they did it in two totally different ways. Ali by being the "mouth" and Tyson by spectacular knockouts and decimation of all opponents.

    Tyson beats a prime Holmes by KO under 8.

    I've always read about Holmes and heard people talk about what a great boxer he is, and I've watched at least 20 of his fights, and I don't see what was so great about him. Pretty lame to watch if you ask me, even when he would dominate people.

    I think when it comes to these old greats it's a thing of nostalgia more than anything else. Was Holmes really that great? I don't think so, but that's just me.

    Tyson cemented his dominance by killing people in the ring. So Holmes outjabbed a bunch of guys and won some decisions.

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      #42
      Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
      Tyson was the most dominant fighter during the 80's. The only other boxer to do for the sport what he did was Ali, and they did it in two totally different ways. Ali by being the "mouth" and Tyson by spectacular knockouts and decimation of all opponents.

      Tyson beats a prime Holmes by KO under 8.

      I've always read about Holmes and heard people talk about what a great boxer he is, and I've watched at least 20 of his fights, and I don't see what was so great about him. Pretty lame to watch if you ask me, even when he would dominate people.

      I think when it comes to these old greats it's a thing of nostalgia more than anything else. Was Holmes really that great? I don't think so, but that's just me.

      Tyson cemented his dominance by killing people in the ring. So Holmes outjabbed a bunch of guys and won some decisions.
      Yep! I had you pegged right on the money: Another fan-boi who overrates knockout punchers and pulls his pud over tomato cans hitting the canvas

      Poet

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        #43
        Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        Yep! I had you pegged right on the money: Another fan-boi who overrates knockout punchers and pulls his pud over tomato cans hitting the canvas

        Poet

        Eat this tomata' can!


        Now take a nap.

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          #44
          Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
          Eat this tomata' can! Now take a nap.
          PLEASE DADDY I'LL BE A GOOD BOY!

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            #45
            History is and WILL ALWAYS BE THE JUDGE

            Originally posted by Rocker View Post
            Who do you got?
            Tyson is one of those RARE BREED of fighters, Like Manny Pacquiao. This guys are ONE in EVERY GENERATION.

            just telling the TRUTH





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              #46
              Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
              PLEASE DADDY I'LL BE A GOOD BOY!

              My pic implies Tyson is better than Holmes.

              My implication is at least debatable.

              Are you insinuating that Buster is better than Tyson? I need some of what you're on.

              As usual, you bring nothing to a debate, just take cheap shots at people who don't agree with you.

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                #47
                Originally posted by crold1 View Post
                Funny thing with Norton was that he won the 15th and I still think he decisively lost. Holmes won most of the first ten rounds as it took Norton a while to really get into it and had Norton hurt bad in the 13th. Great, great fight though.
                Norton had some success in the mid rounds but he didn't beat Holmes. He almost got stopped at one point even.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by boxingfan4lif View Post
                  Tyson is one of those RARE BREED of fighters, Like Manny Pacquiao. This guys are ONE in EVERY GENERATION.

                  just telling the TRUTH
                  Drink the potion son

                  [IMG]http://i67.***********.com/albums/h298/tweetay/g****_koolaid.jpg[/IMG]

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                    #49
                    Tyson defined the Hw division in the 80's. He battered Holmes and smashed the man that beat Holmes twice. not much of a debate here. Holmes kinda took over that lull after Ali left.

                    I have a hard time picking him over any of the other ATG's. Even norton at his peak might have been able to edge Holmes out. Frazier I'd most certainly pick over Holmes as well. (Holmes lackluster defense being the factor here). Foreman I'd pick him to stop Holmes.

                    EDIT: I'd pick Holmes over Lewis, and a slew of other good, near great fighters however.
                    Last edited by them_apples; 02-20-2010, 10:13 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
                      My pic implies Tyson is better than Holmes.

                      My implication is at least debatable.

                      Are you insinuating that Buster is better than Tyson? I need some of what you're on.

                      As usual, you bring nothing to a debate, just take cheap shots at people who don't agree with you.
                      PLEASE MR. HOLYFIELD DON'T HURT ME NO MORE!



                      As usual, you bring nothing to a debate, just simpering hero-worshipping nuthuggery. Dude, you got a hammerlock on Leg-Iron Mike's gonads so hard you're embarrassing your fellow nuthuggers

                      Poet

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