The old fashioned feint

[Anomalocaris]

The Showdown featured both ATG's beautifully employing it but it is not nearly so common now.

So who were the modern masters of the feint in the 21st century?

[JeBron Lamez]

I am no fan of his but Canelo's feints have always served him very, very well indeed.

[Bronson66]

The Showdown featured both ATG's beautifully employing it but it is not nearly so common now.

So who were the modern masters of the feint in the 21st century?

Two masters of the feint in the 20th century were Jersey Joe and Archie Moore,both created openings with shoulder feints.

[Marchegiano]

Jersey Joe Walcott. Personally I feel like Joe should be respected more simply for his displayed, effective, bag of tricks.


Joe Walcott's half ortho half southpaw all killer preloaded hook ... magnificent.

[QueensburyRules]

- - Prob the best ever feint was the Maidana rematch vs l'l floydy in the first round where Maidana walks him backwards to the ropes where he delivers a right to the body that reflexes l'l floydy hands up for protection.

What happens is Maidana looped his right updown for a perfect right to the temple. Floydy collapses while tying Marcos up that Bayless breaks that sends the l'l fellow goose marching backward to the ropes, bouncing hard straight to the canvas, paralyzed and can't get up.

Bayless runs up confused, finally picking him up to ask some questions so his ****** noggin can clear. Now he can now run for his life...only in boxing, folks...yeah!!!

[Willie Pep 229]

What's an "old fashion feint"?

[Mr Mitts]

What's an "old fashion feint"?

Ha! Ha! Really something. You either use them or not, there is nothing old fashioned about feints. They picked maybe the two best feinters ever and then say, "Looky here, nobody feints like these guys anymore."

[Anomalocaris]

Ha! Ha! Really something. You either use them or not, there is nothing old fashioned about feints. They picked maybe the two best feinters ever and then say, "Looky here, nobody feints like these guys anymore."

Fair enough.

On another note the great Don Dunphy's commentary on The Showdown was simply perfect - no verbal bulls*it there.

[QueensburyRules]

Remember Leonard-Benitez?

That was a feint fest. Not much action but yet unbelievablely intense. Like watching two vipers stalking eachother.

The slighest movement by one fighter had to be answered by the other, but neither dare strike.

In contrast, if you watch Hopkins-Jones I, their feints didn't look real, like they were both stalling. There was no intensity.

Maybe there is something to the art of the feint.

- - They canceled each other out, ie the bogus ref stoppage that would've been legit had Ray proved it.

Suits had to protect their $$$ fighter.
146 lbs beat 144 lbs by TKO at 2:54 in round 15 of 15

• Date: 1979-11-30
• Location: Caesars Palace, Sports Pavilion, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
• Referee:
• Judge: 136-134
• Judge: 137-130
• Judge: 137-133

Benitez found Leonard with two righthand leads in the fourth, and suddenly Leonard was fighting a different man. "I wasn't aware I was in a championship early because I hit him so easy," Leonard said. "But then he adjusted to my style. It was like looking in a mirror." And Leonard was having trouble hitting his man, especially with the overhand right. Benitez slipped one after another, dipping under them.

Occasionally the two fighters stopped face to face, flat-footed, feinting with their hands, weaving like wind-up dolls and searching for the openings. Leonard was looking at a mirror. In the sixth round, in fact, they cracked their foreheads together. Fortunately for Leonard, the blow raised only a welt. Unfortunately for Benitez, it opened a gash. Blood flowed down his face. His corner treated the cut, but Benitez knew that Leonard could reopen the wound and that the blood could impair his vision. Benitez was suffering from another problem, too. He had injured his left thumb early in the fight, and by the seventh round he was shaking his left glove at his side.

It was an odd fight, with much parrying and displays of ringcraft, and hard to judge. Neither man dominated. Neither could move the other around. Neither could set the other up. And there was not much ****ing. Leonard landed the harder blows and had Benitez going more than once late in the fight. In the ninth he delivered a flurry of punches, culminating with a right that put Benitez into the ropes. In the 11th Leonard hit him with a hook that jarred his mouthpiece loose. Benitez rope-a-doped. Leonard, who probably missed more punches in this fight than in all his previous 25 pro bouts combined, could not put him away. "No one, I mean no one, can make me miss punches like that," he said. "I kept thinking, 'Man, this guy's really good.' "

If the two used every feint and maneuver in the first 14 rounds, science deferred to war in the 15th, a round they both thought they needed to win.

The fighters swung from all points of the compass in the 15th. For weeks, preparing for this fight, Leonard had studied films of , the super bantamweight champ, who throws a devastating left uppercut. And now, off a jab, Leonard stepped inside and raised one home, catching Benitez on the chin. Down the champion went, to his knees. Regaining his feet, he stepped gingerly to a corner, kicking his legs to get the feeling back. He was ripe now. Leonard threw two punches more, and referee stopped the fight. Benitez had been beaten for the first time in 38 professional fights, and Leonard was the WBC's new welterweight champion.