What if Gene Tunnney was un-defeated in 60+ fights?

[Bronson66]

i do not have time for you. I leave it up to you to determine in your mind which were amater fights as which we not. Wikipedia is superior to box rec imo as it is researched by many historians and records many fights not on box rec.


I keep telling you to keep your came hand high. here me out:



the uk has indeed been grappling with issues related to **** gangs, specifically those targeting vulnerable groups including young women and the elderly.

political and public pressure: There has been significant pressure from various quarters, including political figures like and , for a into the **** gangs scandal. This involves organized groups primarily of , but there's an acknowledgment that such crimes cross ethnic boundaries. The demand for inquiry stems from historical cases in towns like , , and where thousands of children were ***ually exploited over decades with little initial action from authorities due to fears of or .

elderly abuse is one of my concerns! Don't be a victim.

Be safe!

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[GhostofDempsey]

Just gonna throw this out there

GhostofDempsey

I'm just generally interested in what you have to say in this period let alone interested in what you have to say on Tunney. Wish you posted more bro.

For me, Tunney goes down as an ATG light-heavy, that is where his best wins were. Dempsey had squandered his prime with inactivity, by the time he fought Tunney his best years were behind him. Even still, he caught Tunney in the rematch and lost on a long count.

[Dr Z]

I type special just for you to have something to use back. Have you not figured that out yet my myopic old man?


I say again keep your cane high !


There has been significant pressure from various quarters, including political figures like and , for a into the **** gangs scandal. This involves organized groups primarily of , but there's an acknowledgment that such crimes cross ethnic boundaries. The demand for inquiry stems from historical cases in towns like , , and where thousands of children were ***ually exploited over decades with little initial action from authorities due to fears of or .

Elderly abuse is one of my concerns!

Be safe!

- Dr Z

[Marchegiano]

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[Willow The Wisp]

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Lol indeed.

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[billeau2]

IMO Tunney is not in the conversation for ATG HW. Not enough bouts at that weight. LHW is another story, for despite being ravaged at least twice and possibly three times by a well known middle weight he did have a very good record at 175 against quality opponents.

Said like a true posting denizen of the history section!

[billeau2]

Hemingway was a total scumbag, Mailer was another, this was (very politely) demonstrated in the superb 'Shadow Box' by George Plimpton.

Highly recommended if you have never read it.

Mailer IMO was a great writer. Never personally cared for Hemingway... Kidergarten sentences, machismo overboard... no real man who understands violence, suffering and the price one pays as a man would advocate bullfighting.

Cultural relativism be damned ... I do not have to have a positive thing to say about Spain and Mexico regarding this horrid tradition...But from the culture I come from? I was raised by a Je wish dad who lied about his age so he could fight in the Marines (he was 16), proved his worth to his brothers, many of whom were fighting the Japanese because of German family, or sympathy, watched his best friend from the Bronx get his head peeled from a sniper, and at about 135 boxed, by his own admission he was not very good, and did many incredible things...Things like risk his life to help a he man Marine overcome a fear of heights, my dad literally walked him down holding him up... He was a radioman, one of the first the japanese wanted to eliminate... My dad never was machismo in any way, no one would have known his background unless one looked at his face, permanently scared from Malaria from the jungle.

I raised my boys in a similar fashion, fought my own battles growing up a minority in a real hood... And I say all this to say: "Imagine what I see when I see men who measure their pluck bullfighting?" Pathetic to me lol and I just tend to associate Hemingway with this lost generation... sitting on bar stools and looking for a way to prove oneself...

Lol anomalocaris none of this is directed to you lol! Please pardon my rant.

[billeau2]

Which HISTORAINS edit it?lol

Wiki is a great source precisely because it is open source... No professionals lol, no "historians" unless one wants to volunteer to amend a posting. I love Wiki because it encourages people of all stripes to self police... I see it as an experiment that ultimately rewards people who take the effort and time to follow a niche issue. But the strength of the platform is precisely the opposite of using exclusive professionals.