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    Heavyweights evolving historical turnover - Your Projections

    Older and/or declining heavyweight contenders always become supplanted by the members of the next generation matching forward, in a rhythm that dates back to the begining of time. In this are a few good comebacks and turnarounds and some hang on as perennials across overlapping generations, but eventually all become replaced.
    Today we are starting to see the aging out of the first "Post Klitschko Generation (2002 - 2015)".


    Just off the cuff, it seems that the age still very much belongs to Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Oleksandr Usyk, Anthony Joshua, Andy Ruiz Jr and Joe Joyce until further notice.

    Done, older or in apparent or inevitable decline are Dillian Whyte, Joseph Parker, Luis Ortiz, Alexander Povetkin, Derek Chisora, Jarell Miller, Kubrat Pulev, Robert Helenius, Chris Arreola, Charles Martin, Johann Duhaupaus, Gerald Washington, Dominic Breazeale, Adam Kownacki, Carlos Takam, Bermaine Stiverne, Trevor Bryan, Lucas Brown, Erkan Teper....

    Their slots have been or are going to be replaced in a process that is ever continuing by the next round of title aspirants, such as Filip Hrgovic, Martin Bakole, Tony Yoka, Daniel Dubois, Frank Sanchez, Otto Wallin, Michael Hunter, Jared Anderson, Simon Kean, Arslanbek Makhmudov, Zhilei Zhang, Zhan Kossobutskiy, Stephen Shaw, Jermaine Franklin, Efe Ajagba, Ali Eren Demirezen, Vladyslav Sirenko, Bakhodir Jalolov, Murat Gassiev, Evjeny Romanov, Ivan Dychko, Agit Kabayel, Steven Torres, Richard Torres and the like.

    Question:
    Name the next 5 to drop away from the top 15.
    Name the next 5 to become a presence in the top 15.

    What might the top 10 look life in another 7 or 8 years?
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    #2
    See? Jermain Franklin just beat Dillian Whyte! That's the process. Out with the old, in with the new!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
      See? Jermain Franklin just beat Dillian Whyte! That's the process. Out with the old, in with the new!
      Man... that Franklin is one tough dude! Was caught flush by several big right-handers, and didn't even budge.

      How about Franklin vs Joshua? If he can get in shape to go 12 hard rounds, and he can take Joshua's best punch... I could maybe see him grind down the Brit over the distance. I think it would be a cracking fight, whichever way it goes - and would much prefer this to a Joshua - Whyte return match!

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        #4
        Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
        See? Jermain Franklin just beat Dillian Whyte! That's the process. Out with the old, in with the new!
        ? .... what am I missing? Was this sarcasm to your own post?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

          ? .... what am I missing? Was this sarcasm to your own post?
          My guess is, he felt Franklin was robbed... quite a few people apparently thought so!
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            #6
            Originally posted by Bundana View Post

            Man... that Franklin is one tough dude! Was caught flush by several big right-handers, and didn't even budge.

            How about Franklin vs Joshua? If he can get in shape to go 12 hard rounds, and he can take Joshua's best punch... I could maybe see him grind down the Brit over the distance. I think it would be a cracking fight, whichever way it goes - and would much prefer this to a Joshua - Whyte return match!
            I Agree 100%. Needless to say, Franklin went into that with long periods of inactivity and a stalled career, and proved very slick and busy, taking the fight to Whyte and easily soaking up anything that Whyte managed to land. Franklln has become one to watch. Hopefully he can quit his 60 hrs/week job now and make a full charge at the gate.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

              I Agree 100%. Needless to say, Franklin went into that with long periods of inactivity and a stalled career, and proved very slick and busy, taking the fight to Whyte and easily soaking up anything that Whyte managed to land. Franklln has become one to watch. Hopefully he can quit his 60 hrs/week job now and make a full charge at the gate.
              Whyte looked shot to bits. Joshua will demolish him in the rematch.

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                #8
                Originally posted by markusmod View Post

                Whyte looked shot to bits. Joshua will demolish him in the rematch.
                - - Out cold for 5 minutes vs aging Povetkin. Ignoring the physical damage, for a big, strong, raging heavy thug like Whyte to be demolished like that, mentally he knows he can be had easy now.

                AJ was there with Eddie planning a retirement fight for Whyte between the two, selling their natural rivalry back in the day.

                Frankie deserves credit for showing up and pressing the fight instead of running and stinking as is the American way these days. Short arms, little power, and not much of a boxer, maybe he can take this tynsy morsal of fame to make some money against an American like Hunter who is always looking for a dance partner.

                Maybe loose the jiggling tltties that may have distracted Whyte mightily

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post
                  Older and/or declining heavyweight contenders always become supplanted by the members of the next generation matching forward, in a rhythm that dates back to the begining of time. In this are a few good comebacks and turnarounds and some hang on as perennials across overlapping generations, but eventually all become replaced.
                  Today we are starting to see the aging out of the first "Post Klitschko Generation (2002 - 2015)".


                  Just off the cuff, it seems that the age still very much belongs to Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Oleksandr Usyk, Anthony Joshua, Andy Ruiz Jr and Joe Joyce until further notice.

                  Done, older or in apparent or inevitable decline are Dillian Whyte, Joseph Parker, Luis Ortiz, Alexander Povetkin, Derek Chisora, Jarell Miller, Kubrat Pulev, Robert Helenius, Chris Arreola, Charles Martin, Johann Duhaupaus, Gerald Washington, Dominic Breazeale, Adam Kownacki, Carlos Takam, Bermaine Stiverne, Trevor Bryan, Lucas Brown, Erkan Teper....

                  Their slots have been or are going to be replaced in a process that is ever continuing by the next round of title aspirants, such as Filip Hrgovic, Martin Bakole, Tony Yoka, Daniel Dubois, Frank Sanchez, Otto Wallin, Michael Hunter, Jared Anderson, Simon Kean, Arslanbek Makhmudov, Zhilei Zhang, Zhan Kossobutskiy, Stephen Shaw, Jermaine Franklin, Efe Ajagba, Ali Eren Demirezen, Vladyslav Sirenko, Bakhodir Jalolov, Murat Gassiev, Evjeny Romanov, Ivan Dychko, Agit Kabayel, Steven Torres, Richard Torres and the like.

                  Question:
                  Name the next 5 to drop away from the top 15.
                  Name the next 5 to become a presence in the top 15.

                  What might the top 10 look life in another 7 or 8 years?

                  Another 7-8 years? Most champions are not on top that long. In the next five years Fury will be replaced. Hrgovic or Jalolov are the best prospects right now, see my top 15 heavy with prospect to learn more.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by markusmod View Post

                    Whyte looked shot to bits. Joshua will demolish him in the rematch.
                    Joshua- Whyte has about as much intrigue to it as Fury - DelBoy III at this point. Plenty of other heavyweights out there to offer a first opportunity to. Sometimes they turn out like Don King's latest fatty, and other times they emerge onto the scene like Jermain Franklin did this weekend.
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