Where did Schmeling learn how to box + get his skills

[them_apples]

Where in Germany would he learn this, and how much film footage would have been available for him to study American boxing.

He uses the shoulder roll well, rides punches and uses baiting headmovement to draw punches in and make his opponents miss. Throws a straight fencing jab and a laser right cross. does some good body maneuvering as well inside to get body shots in.

anyhow check it out, upscaled footage ,smooth boxings channel:

[Willow The Wisp]

The master, Otto Flint.

[Willie Pep 229]

The master, Otto Flint.

Name sounds more like a German filmmaker than a fight tranier.

[them_apples]

The master, Otto Flint.

This is true? is he some great German trainer? sounds interesting

[Willow The Wisp]

This is true? is he some great German trainer? sounds interesting

Schmeling was determined to become a boxing champion after being taken as a boy by his father to the local theatre in nearby Rostock (in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern) and witnessing a film of the Dempsey-Carpentier "Fight of the Century " in 1921. Max began entering all the regional tournaments and improved quickly.
Arther Bulow, the editor of the 1920s - 30's German language "Boxsport" Magizine saw a young Schmeling winning with his natural gifts in a series of Amateur bouts, and introduced Schmeling to Max Machon, a long established trainer/manager who owned the prestigious die Boxsport Universität in Berlin. (Joe Jacobs would later take over management duties but Machon would stay on as Schmeling's trainer for the whole of his pro career). Machon worked with Schmeling and saw that his was a prodigious talent. The house heavyweight in the Berlin gym was the great pre-WW I German heavyweight Otto Flint, who first schooled the then light heavyweight Schmeling in the professional game from 1924 as he quickly overtook Hans Breitenstraeter, Kurt Sasse, Hein Domgoergen, Rudi Wagener, Hein Heeser, Albert Wagner, Adolf Wiegert, Heinrich Schluter, Ernst Kotch, Hans Hirschberger, Fritz Ensel, Helmuth Kapitzke, Richard Naujoks, Walter Funke, Eugen Kuendig, Ernst Grimm, Kurt Prenzel, Fritz Rolauf and even Flint himself as the number one attraction of the white hot 1920's German Boxing scene, and the rest is history; with Schmeling the premier toast of Berlin, eventually challenging for the world title, and soon becomming one of Europe's most famous and celebrated 20th century athletes. Schmeling was a facinating individual from start to finish, well into his 100th year.




The front photo is a very young Flint circa 1911 or 12. Most photos of Otto Flint at Heavyweight show him larger, with a shaven head. He was one of the early German pro Boxing stars and a WWI Iron Cross and Hindenburg Cross recipient, a war hero.

[billeau2]

Name sounds more like a German filmmaker than a fight tranier.

German Expressionist boxing, much like the painting, used various tints and etchings to portray an often dark underbelly that naturally took to film and eventual Noir vocabulary. Wait a second!!

[billeau2]

Schmeling had to put up with misinformation about his loyalties... he was in fact a decent man who even saw Louis through hard times, generously... Him and Louis, as most here know, became great friends. Both were used as political means to an end.

[Willow The Wisp]

Schmeling had to put up with misinformation about his loyalties... he was in fact a decent man who even saw Louis through hard times, generously... Him and Louis, as most here know, became great friends. Both were used as political means to an end.

All true. But Schmeling was SO much more than that!

[them_apples]

All true. But Schmeling was SO much more than that!

Its really not fair to use the **** thing on him anyways, he was a german citizen. Just like us within our own country it’s not always easy or safe to be someone who defies the government. So crank that up a few notches because it was 1939 and contemporary human rights weren’t on the table yet. Schmeling may have liked boxing but found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time. And also remember, even a german mildy supporting the **** party out of brainwash or fear - they haven’t witnessed any war crimes yet and certainly weren’t running POW death camps.

so it’s a pretty short sighted opinion to label Schmeling a **** (for those that do, I know you weren’t) unless we literally had footage of him in full **** uniform hanging with prominent members of the third reich and we could make the assumption he was full tilt into the german volk and **** doctrination. But he wasn’t. So there is no need.

[Rockybigblower]

I read somewhere once that he sparred Adolph Hitler.