New York Times Has a New Solution to Student Loan Debt

[travestyny]

Galatians 6:2 "Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ." So you think this applies to paying off someone's student debt. How about you paying my mortgage? Bad idea right because I'm the one who took out the mortgage not you. Same principle applies for student debt as well. Obviously, the proper application is a spiritual one and deals with how Christians give support to one another.

]Matthew 5:42[/B]
"Give to those who ask, and don’t refuse those who wish to borrow from you." You took the quote out of context. This scripture speaks to how a Christians should deal with his enemies. (Matthew 5:38-42) . . .“You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ 39 However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him. 40 And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment; 41 and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you. . .
Romans 12:13
"Contribute to the needs of God’s people, and welcome strangers into your home. You failed to note that the scripture is telling Christians how to treat fellow Christians. It would be an intentional misapplication of this Bible verse to suggest Christians have responsibility to pay some worldly person's student debt.

Matthew 25:44-45
"Then they will reply, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and didn’t do anything to help you?' Then he will answer, 'I assure you that when you haven't done it for one of the least of these, you haven't done it for me.'" Let's consider the entire context of this parable: (Matthew 25:34-46) . . .“Then the King will say to those on his right: ‘Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world. 35 For I became hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you received me hospitably; 36 naked and you clothed me. I fell sick and you looked after me. I was in prison and you visited me.’ 37 Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 In reply the King will say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left: ‘Go away from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. 42 For I became hungry, but you gave me nothing to eat; and I was thirsty, but you gave me nothing to drink. 43 I was a stranger, but you did not receive me hospitably; naked, but you did not clothe me; sick and in prison, but you did not look after me.’ 44 Then they too will answer with the words: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying: ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.’ 46 These will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”

Here's the proper understanding: A glance at the parable reveals three groups that we need to identify. In addition to the sheep and the goats, the Son of man adds the third group whose identity is pivotal to identifying the sheep and the goats. Jesus calls this third group his spiritual brothers. (Matthew 25:40, 45) They must be true worshipers, for Jesus said: “Whoever does the will of my Father . . . , the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.” (Matthew 12:50; John 20:17) More to the point, Paul wrote of Christians who are part of “Abraham’s seed” and who are sons of God. He called these Jesus’ “brothers” and “partakers of the heavenly calling.”—Hebrews 2:9–3:1; Galatians 3:26, 29.

⁶ Why did Jesus mention “the least” of his brothers? Those words echo what the apostles heard him say earlier. When contrasting John the Baptist, who died before Jesus and therefore had an earthly hope, with those attaining to heavenly life, Jesus said: “There has not been raised up a greater than John the Baptist; but a person that is a lesser one in the kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is.” (Matthew 11:11) Some going to heaven may have been prominent in the congregation, like the apostles, and others less so, but they are all Jesus’ spiritual brothers. (Luke 16:10; 1 Corinthians 15:9; Ephesians 3:8; Hebrews 8:11) Thus, even if some seemed insignificant on earth, they were his brothers and should have been treated accordingly.

So, the short answer is Jesus was saying that how one treated his true disciples is the basis of the judgement mankind will receive. Sorry to say old fellow, but you seem to fall into the category of one whose judgement will not be good.

The rest of the scriptures you dug up and misapplied to try and prove your argument are all out of context as well. They all refer to how God's worshippers treat one another on an individual basis. What you are doing is misusing God's word, and I must draw this to your attention, it makes you God's resister (Satan means resister).

1. No. Not a bad idea at all if you are in need of help and I'm a good Christian. But you are also still mischaracterizing what you are being asked to do, which is....absolutely nothing different than you are already being asked to do. No one is even asking you to reach deeper into your pockets. You are simply upset because funds given to the government would be used by the government on other people, which happens perpetually.

2. Doesn't seem out of context to me. If you should treat your enemies like that, I assume you can do for others.

3. Don't think that is a misinterpretation at all. I seriously doubt Jesus would say, "Fvvck everyone else."

4. Say what? Who falls into the category whose judgement would not be good? Are you God suddenly? LMAO. Get out of here.

5. Oh really? I'm misusing God's words?


So you just made up a whole bunch of bullshlt excuses about how everything the bible says about helping people doesn't actually apply. You are a fvvcking charlatan

Have you given any thought to all of the good Christian people who have student loans? Or "F - em"? What do you think?

You especially gave a bs response to the first one. And your last one was also a cop out talking about how it applies to individuals. Yes, they are all individuals. LMAO. That was really dumb of you. But this should take care of all that nonsense above since it revolves around a common theme:


~ "Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers."



I think that makes it clear, especially since it says "especially to those who belong to the family of believers" which makes it clear to do good also to non-believers. ALL PEOPLE. Any other excuses you want to pull from your rump?

[4truth]

Galatians 6:2 "Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ." So you think this applies to paying off someone's student debt. How about you paying my mortgage? Bad idea right because I'm the one who took out the mortgage not you. Same principle applies for student debt as well. Obviously, the proper application is a spiritual one and deals with how Christians give support to one another.

]Matthew 5:42[/B]
"Give to those who ask, and don’t refuse those who wish to borrow from you." You took the quote out of context. This scripture speaks to how a Christians should deal with his enemies. (Matthew 5:38-42) . . .“You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ 39 However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him. 40 And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment; 41 and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you. . .
Romans 12:13
"Contribute to the needs of God’s people, and welcome strangers into your home. You failed to note that the scripture is telling Christians how to treat fellow Christians. It would be an intentional misapplication of this Bible verse to suggest Christians have responsibility to pay some worldly person's student debt.

Matthew 25:44-45
"Then they will reply, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and didn’t do anything to help you?' Then he will answer, 'I assure you that when you haven't done it for one of the least of these, you haven't done it for me.'" Let's consider the entire context of this parable: (Matthew 25:34-46) . . .“Then the King will say to those on his right: ‘Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world. 35 For I became hungry and you gave me something to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you received me hospitably; 36 naked and you clothed me. I fell sick and you looked after me. I was in prison and you visited me.’ 37 Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 In reply the King will say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ 41 “Then he will say to those on his left: ‘Go away from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. 42 For I became hungry, but you gave me nothing to eat; and I was thirsty, but you gave me nothing to drink. 43 I was a stranger, but you did not receive me hospitably; naked, but you did not clothe me; sick and in prison, but you did not look after me.’ 44 Then they too will answer with the words: ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying: ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.’ 46 These will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”

Here's the proper understanding: A glance at the parable reveals three groups that we need to identify. In addition to the sheep and the goats, the Son of man adds the third group whose identity is pivotal to identifying the sheep and the goats. Jesus calls this third group his spiritual brothers. (Matthew 25:40, 45) They must be true worshipers, for Jesus said: “Whoever does the will of my Father . . . , the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.” (Matthew 12:50; John 20:17) More to the point, Paul wrote of Christians who are part of “Abraham’s seed” and who are sons of God. He called these Jesus’ “brothers” and “partakers of the heavenly calling.”—Hebrews 2:9–3:1; Galatians 3:26, 29.

⁶ Why did Jesus mention “the least” of his brothers? Those words echo what the apostles heard him say earlier. When contrasting John the Baptist, who died before Jesus and therefore had an earthly hope, with those attaining to heavenly life, Jesus said: “There has not been raised up a greater than John the Baptist; but a person that is a lesser one in the kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is.” (Matthew 11:11) Some going to heaven may have been prominent in the congregation, like the apostles, and others less so, but they are all Jesus’ spiritual brothers. (Luke 16:10; 1 Corinthians 15:9; Ephesians 3:8; Hebrews 8:11) Thus, even if some seemed insignificant on earth, they were his brothers and should have been treated accordingly.

So, the short answer is Jesus was saying that how one treated his true disciples is the basis of the judgement mankind will receive. Sorry to say old fellow, but you seem to fall into the category of one whose judgement will not be good.

The rest of the scriptures you dug up and misapplied to try and prove your argument are all out of context as well. They all refer to how God's worshippers treat one another on an individual basis. What you are doing is misusing God's word, and I must draw this to your attention, it makes you God's resister (Satan means resister).

You have the patience of Job.

[travestyny]

You have the patience of Jobe.

And you are 4truth as much as a Klan member is 4integration


By the way, it's "Job." You're welcome

[4truth]

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yeah, thanks for that.

[travestyny]

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yeah, thanks for that.

It only took you an hour That's what you get for rushing to cheerlead because I make you feel some type of way

[Left Hook Tua]

I have an idea

How about ppl pay back the money they borrowed?

[Zaroku]

The gov bailed out big banks .
i don’t think taxpayers were treated fairly, or had any say I that bailout.

Then if we give these youngsters time, they might be able to pay their loans off, this might help relieve some student debt. It might take longer, but if they can’t pay, they can’t pay

I think they still gotta pay their loans back , but if they can’t pay now perhaps a loan repayment program might could be implemented?

Just throwing out ideas… ok

[Anthony342]

Sadly we can't pick and choose where our tax money goes. There are FAR worse uses of tax money than funding education for kids. Far worse.

Well we should be able to then. I say have a president that makes that a new policy, so people feel better about paying any and all taxes. Like, if you don't have any kids and don't wanna pay any school taxes, then you don't. We all pay for stuff that we only want and that applies to us if we wanna. If we want to help others, then we do that too. Let people choose where our tax money goes. Give us options. Maybe some kinda checklist. But I guess we'd have less funding that way. Would also be nice to get an itemized bill though.

[OldTerry]

1. No. Not a bad idea at all if you are in need of help and I'm a good Christian. But you are also still mischaracterizing what you are being asked to do, which is....absolutely nothing different than you are already being asked to do. No one is even asking you to reach deeper into your pockets. You are simply upset because funds given to the government would be used by the government on other people, which happens perpetually.

2. Doesn't seem out of context to me. If you should treat your enemies like that, I assume you can do for others.

3. Don't think that is a misinterpretation at all. I seriously doubt Jesus would say, "Fvvck everyone else."

4. Say what? Who falls into the category whose judgement would not be good? Are you God suddenly? LMAO. Get out of here.

5. Oh really? I'm misusing God's words?


So you just made up a whole bunch of bullshlt excuses about how everything the bible says about helping people doesn't actually apply. You are a fvvcking charlatan

Have you given any thought to all of the good Christian people who have student loans? Or "F - em"? What do you think?

You especially gave a bs response to the first one. And your last one was also a cop out talking about how it applies to individuals. Yes, they are all individuals. LMAO. That was really dumb of you. But this should take care of all that nonsense above since it revolves around a common theme:


~ "Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers."



I think that makes it clear, especially since it says "especially to those who belong to the family of believers" which makes it clear to do good also to non-believers. ALL PEOPLE. Any other excuses you want to pull from your rump?

You are an impossibly unreasonably profane person and as wicked as they come. As far as how the government spends money, I have no say. If they want to pay off everyone's debt, be it student loans or otherwise, let them have at it. The point is I don't have to believe that how they choose to spend money is always wise or for the good of everyone.

My opinion of who is responsible for paying personal debt is that the person who borrowed the money is responsible. Please tell me why that should not be the case. That shouldn't be too difficult for you, or is it?

[travestyny]

You are an impossibly unreasonably profane person and as wicked as they come. As far as how the government spends money, I have no say. If they want to pay off everyone's debt, be it student loans or otherwise, let them have at it. The point is I don't have to believe that how they choose to spend money is always wise or for the good of everyone.

My opinion of who is responsible for paying personal debt is that the person who borrowed the money is responsible. Please tell me why that should not be the case. That shouldn't be too difficult for you, or is it?

Well you must also be wicked since you go around accusing people of being trans when they obviously are not and you speak out AGAINST helping people. You also claim to know how people will be judged. As wicked as they come!

But of course I will answer your question. I also believe the person with the debt is responsible for paying it off. I think that is obvious. That doesn't mean they can't be helped.

What I'm asking you is, with all of the things in the bible about helping others out, why would you be arguing for NOT helping people out, especially when you don't have to do ANYTHING extra in order to help people out. That doesn't seem very Christian to me. I wonder if your God will judge you over it.

66% of the country is Christian, and you are arguing against helping many of them even when it costs you nothing extra. That's selfish, against what's in the Bible, and you're a fraud.