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    #31
    Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
    'Pends what you mean '****ty'... Mum's still alive and going strong in her late 70s relentlessly practical and a willful force of nature, kind but not really demonstrative or given to displays of emotion... See her on the Len Johnson study thread I did in the history sec. Stoic and unflappable... plenty of stories of her own about travelling around Eurpoe by herself or with me and my brother toddling after her. Trained as nurse as a youngster, never thought herself very bright, but went then to University in her late 30s picked up first a degree then a Masters in clinical research. Strong woman.

    Barely saw my old man til I was about 9 years old, cos he couldn't get a visa to come live in the UK,,, never doubted for a second I was loved or that he would die (or more likely kill) for me, but the dude was messed up, volatile, in turns extremely loving and passionate about life but also prone to brooding silences for weeks followed by explosive outbursts. Ain't really surprising though once I learned some of **** he'd been through later but as a kid kinda hard to figure out. His family got caught up in the Greek civil war, saw his house burned down as a toddler and got caught up in the politics of the Junta and tortured in prison, became a dealer and pimp after that, fund his habit... only kicked when he came to the UK in about '81. Man was hard and had old school ideas about raising sons that stood out a little in the sleepy rural village where I grew up.

    Couldn't seem to stop myself provoking him though... my older brother just kept his head down and scuttled off to university soon as he got the chance, but seemed like I just couldn't help trying to needle him. Figured out later it was because I couldn't stand the fear waiting for the violence to come so provoking it on my timescale at least gave me some kinda control over it. I always did have a quick mouth anyway though, probably got me into as many sc****s as it got me out of.

    By the time I was 15 and 16 though the fights were starting to get serious and my ma got hurt a coupla times caught in the middle, time I was 17 I knew I hadda go or one of us (probably me) was gonna end up in hospital or dead. Left home coupla days after my 17th Birthday, packed a bag, never looked back.

    Did start spending a bit more time with em both after a few years but never healed things with my old man - not really. Dude died 2011, August I think. 10 years ago near as dammit. Dunno don't really even think about him... kinda regret not trying harder to learn more about him even if my anger ran a bit too deep to really forgive him even 20 years after I left.

    It's probably significant that my own road back to something like a normal life seemed to pick up pace after he died though, so maybe it cleared something, gave me some kinda closure maybe.
    Ima big fan of Pablo Neruda


    i prefer his works in Spanish
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      #32
      Originally posted by Zaroku View Post

      Ima big fan of Pablo Neruda


      i prefer his works in Spanish
      My crazy old communist dad used to make me learn poetry as well... when he was in a nurturing frame of mind that was. Neruda, Elliot, Brecht, Hikmet... ****, can still pull a fair bit from my rusty old mind with barely an effort...

      "Our eyes
      are limpid,
      drops of water
      In each drop
      Exists a tiny sign
      Of our genius....

      To my shame I never learned to read Spanish though I can speak enough to get drunk, high and laid.
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        #33
        No, I had/have great parents

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          #34
          I was birthed by a ****** Mary.

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            #35
            Originally posted by siablo14 View Post

            You shared your DNA on one of those lineage site?
            I havent tried that. What's your take on that?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post

              My crazy old communist dad used to make me learn poetry as well... when he was in a nurturing frame of mind that was. Neruda, Elliot, Brecht, Hikmet... ****, can still pull a fair bit from my rusty old mind with barely an effort...

              "Our eyes
              are limpid,
              drops of water
              In each drop
              Exists a tiny sign
              Of our genius....

              To my shame I never learned to read Spanish though I can speak enough to get drunk, high and laid.
              Respect.. I was in a dark place when I read the gulag archipelago

              then mid 80s, I was into Japanese short stories about death.

              then I went through a lot of Japanese writers …

              yukio Mishima wrote a great book Shiosai

              but I loved haiku

              Please know basho

              Last edited by Zaroku; 12-05-2021, 03:36 AM.

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                #37
                My dad had a very cold father. His mom died when he was 5, his dad remarried to a wonderful woman my dad became very close to. She died while he was 10. My dad just never learned how to be a father. He's definitely not a bad guy but he never made family time. What can you do about that? I am a super involved awesome dad for my 9 year old adopted Thai daughter. She excelling incredibly in everything at school. So much talent as an artist we're going to be putting her work into shows. At this point, I love my dad, who's 85. Life has lessons for all of us. Did I have it especially bad? Heck no! We had a working class life but by world standards, that's amazing. If you look at the hardships people endure in the world, I've had a soft, easy life by comparison. I'm grateful. My mom and dad are still together until a ripe old age.
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                  #38
                  My dad was a wild child growing up and was kicked out the house for it by a military type father. His friend would do his laundry and bring him leftover food to this tent he pitched in the middle of a field in -35 degree celsius weather. He graduated grade 12 as a homeless kid.

                  He then went onto college and graduated at the top of his class of 250 people. Was arrested for something pretty serious in his late 20’s. Went on to be a very successful businessman after he was released.

                  You probably just interpreted that as an inspirational story. It’s that but it’s also the origin of a monster.

                  A man who conquered life no matter what it threw at him becomes a bit of an asshole. He becomes desensitized and views absolutely every problem you have as a joke. No fatherly advice. Just cold, hard truths as he laughs and jokes about how much of a wuss you are while he goes out of his way to make your life even more difficult. Life was hell.

                  TBH though, his “I don’t negotiate with *********s” approach to fathering me sort of worked out in the end. I was a liar, cheat and manipulator. Just a bad kid overall who was heading in the wrong direction. Was everything he suspected me of. He taught me a lot and I’m a better man for it.

                  My mom is, was and always has been a saint. All I have to say on the matter.
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                    #39
                    Damn. It's looking like Larry and I had the best dad out of y'all. Who would have figured?
                    Last edited by siablo14; 12-05-2021, 09:33 AM.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by markusmod View Post

                      I havent tried that. What's your take on that?
                      My family have used it and they have found another close relative. That unknown relative seemed like he was given to the wrong dad.

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