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    What Should be *****'s and the U.S.' Response to This.

    In your opinions, what SHOULD the United States government do in response to this:

    4 of 400 ICU beds left in Idaho.
    8 ICU beds left in Arkansas in mid-August
    50 of 638 hospital beds open in Oregon
    75% of all inpatient beds in the United States occupied

    KEY BACKGROUND:
    With the delta variant of the coronavirus sweeping through the country, more than 102,000 Americans were hospitalized with Covid-19 as of Sunday, a New York Times database. The average daily number of patients hospitalized by Covid-19 has climbed past for the first time since the first week in February. As a result, medical facilities nationwide that have been worn thin by the relentless onslaught of the virus over the past 18 months are once again being stretched to or beyond capacity. Last week, Idaho only four, out of nearly 400, adult ICU beds were available in the entire state. "We are dangerously close to activating statewide crisis standards of care," . "In essence, someone would have to decide who can be treated and who cannot." There were just eight available ICU beds in Arkansas in mid-August. Gov. last month she would deploy up to 1,500 National Guard members to support frontline health care workers. Oregon's Health Authority reported over the weekend that only 50 of 638 hospital beds were open. According to the most recent data from the, more than 75% of all inpatient beds in the country are occupied.

    WHAT TO WATCH FOR:
    After the number of vaccine doses administered in the U.S. bottomed out at approximately 500,000 doses a day in late July, providers are now administering about 950,000 daily doses on average. However, 47% of all Americans are still not fully vaccinated, which has enabled the delta variant to spread. The ***** Administration had planned to make Covid-19 booster shots available to the general public in late September. However, Dr. it's "conceivable" that only Pfizer's shot will be approved by Sept. 20. Moderna's jab may be delayed "at the most a couple of weeks."

    Should the government be pushing an active approach by calling for people to get vaccinated and wear masks, or should the government do nothing? Is there some other option that you would like to add and discuss? I thought I'd leave off the option that says start chucking the old folks out of those ICU beds and open them up for the children.
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    Active Approach: Push for the populace to receive the vaccine and wear masks.
    62.50%
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    Passive Approach: Absolutely nothing/ Fcvk Them.
    37.50%
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    #2
    He should call BS .

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      #3
      Personally, I think we pay too much in taxes for our government to do absolutely nothing to benefit our lives. It's not only what can I do for my country, but also, what can my country do for me? The reason that we vote is to put competent people in position to properly represent us in the midst of processing information rationally and using their critical thinking and problem solving skills to come up with solutions for our betterment.

      This one seemed like a no brainer to me. Maybe the true issue is that people just want an excuse to fight against each other. I say the sky is blue, you say it's red, and suddenly the sky is falling. And it was all an inside job.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Jc8804 View Post
        He should call BS .
        You believe the stats are false? That could be. But why do you believe so?

        Do you think the ********** governor mentioned above is in on a ******* plot?

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          #5
          To remove vaccine hesitancy, just restore the ability to sue the manufacturers for damages! This should pose no risk, since the vaccines are "safe and effective" - and it might just save lives! No idea why this isn't happening ‍

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            #6
            The response should be NOTHING. This is now essentially a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and if the unvaccinated dont want the vaccine, then its on them, that is their right. None of us can force them to do anything they do not want, but I am also not changing my life.
            Last edited by JimRaynor; 09-10-2021, 10:50 PM.
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              #7
              Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
              The response should be NOTHING. This is now essentially a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and if the unvaccinated dont want the vaccine, then its on them, that is their right. None of us can force them to do anything they do not want, but I am also not changing my life.
              And what about all of the school children? I think kids under 12 haven't been vaccinated yet. And what about the people who, for whatever reason, can't be vaccinated.

              Also, as many right wing posters love to bring up, not only unvaccinated people are affected. Vaccinated people can still become sick. Shouldn't the government do what it can to stop the spread amongst its citizens?

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                #8
                Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
                The response should be NOTHING. This is now essentially a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and if the unvaccinated dont want the vaccine, then its on them, that is their right. None of us can force them to do anything they do not want, but I am also not changing my life.
                Do you know the stats on the people in hospitals? Unvaccinated/vaccinated?

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                  #9
                  - -Emailed my congressman, one of the most senior Representatives in that body, at the start of The Great Corona Panic of 2020-

                  1. Get all the National Guards out to do basic health screening for the people, ie combat Mash tents to isolate non critical patients from hospitals as a national, uniform database is created to get to the gist of whose sick and dying.

                  2. Shutting down the massive economy putting folk out of work ain't the way to battle Corona...duh...

                  3. Do the masking, distancing, a vacs on a voluntary basis knowing in the pantheon of Time this thing has spread like an international wildfire jumping great oceans and 99.9% of the world populace has been exposed with no special interventions needed.

                  4. Stop blabbering about crafted sound bytes being science and all the political posturing that goes with it. Corona don't vote and care about alchemy or the greedy Healthcare Industry.

                  Instead our leaders botched everything like when they started Carpetbombing the Serbs in 99 that has fired up the Dogs of Endless Wars that has turned the middle east into a staging ground for the 100+ yr Islamic Reformation 20 years in and still going strong. The People have neglected their duties to elect credible leaders as the Healthcare Industry don't give a rat's assss about The Hippocratic Oath.

                  What can we the people do? I volunteer Weensie as The Poster Boy for a vitamin and vacc a day to keep the Doctor away. To see his shining visage plastered in every home, stadium, and office and the highest levels of DC would lift first American, then World spirits into the fighting shape needed to man up to Corona...

                  Whose wif me?
                  Whose a'gin me?



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                    #10
                    Originally posted by travestyny View Post

                    And what about all of the school children? I think kids under 12 haven't been vaccinated yet. And what about the people who, for whatever reason, can't be vaccinated.

                    Also, as many right wing posters love to bring up, not only unvaccinated people are affected. Vaccinated people can still become sick. Shouldn't the government do what it can to stop the spread amongst its citizens?
                    Kids are not even remotely in any danger, there have been like 400 kid deaths out of more than 600,000 which means the odds of a child dying from Covid is .0006% in other words countless of other things are more dangerous for them.

                    as for the unvaccinated or who can’t for some reason get vaccinated, who are these people? They number a fraction of a fraction of a percent. The vaccines are now just about at every health facility.

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