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    #21
    The CDC along with the media in this country are misleading. One has to read carefully to ascertain what the statement about masks and profelactic actions really says. Nowhere does it say masks are a way to prevent catching the virus. What it says is that if someone is already infected, saliva will not spread out if a mask is worn. To many of us, aside from balancing the need for civic action, with an insult to our intelligence, it is obvious that the real way to stop the spread of the illness is social distancing, and social distancing alone. So, could a restaurant, for example, operate? yes... As long as people understood the risk, people preparing the food perhaps used a profelactic remedy, and people were spaced out a bit more than usual.

    What happened is places like San Francisco took advantage of people's ignorance and destroyed livlihoods, so they could seen as being proactive with the virus. People in this country were faced with a real dilmna: What about civility? So, for example, I had no real problem wearing a mask for going out... But when it came to pushing the narrative, and shutting down businesses, it went too far. Notice how big business was exempt... Airlines for example, could not even be bothered to not seat the middle seat on flights...

    People are now asking why, if it was never established that masks were preventative, masks should be worn. And many of us would love to biatch slap politicians who could have acted in the public interest and explained that people were responsible for social distancing to prevent transmission, instead of acting against the people. What good is telling restaurants not to open, if people are sitting together in a park a block away? Either way, people are responsible for assuming the risk and government is limited what they can do.

    Will this wake people up? I doubt it. What about when China Joe destroys us and Washington is back to doing nothing for nobody? Will people wake up? doubt it. Trump is rumored to s hit on himself, and many people would not want to socialize with him... But Pelosi gets a pass? This women has, her entire life fed off the public trough and done nothing for anyone but her own interests and could not even be bothered to abide by her own self serving policies.
    Last edited by billeau2; 03-08-2021, 02:40 PM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by _original_ View Post

      The fact you get your news sources from oaan just proves you’re a complete imbecile not worth engaging.
      the fact that you can't say one thing about OAN proves you're a bitch and yea no need to engage with you.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Ubeja Vontell View Post


        There is no need to let others know you just don't care, so ya wear the mask, it is no big deal of any kind anyone thinking it is has the problem.

        I don't have the virus and nobody in my family has it and we all wear the masks, wash the hands and stay away from strangers. Guess it's working,
        Yea it's working, my N95 with a surgical(double masks before double masks were "cool") and faceshield with gowns works that I still got covid, but yea it works. But again, keep wearing your mask and go by what someone else tells you what to do, keep being the sheep you are, take care.
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          #24
          Originally posted by Beercules View Post

          I swear someone, somewhere is laid back high as a kite just making **** up as we go to mess with us
          if you had a bunch of idiots believing you, you'd probably be making a lot of shit up too

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            #25
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
            The CDC along with the media in this country are misleading. One has to read carefully to ascertain what the statement about masks and profelactic actions really says. Nowhere does it say masks are a way to prevent catching the virus. What it says is that if someone is already infected, saliva will not spread out if a mask is worn. To many of us, aside from balancing the need for civic action, with an insult to our intelligence, it is obvious that the real way to stop the spread of the illness is social distancing, and social distancing alone. So, could a restaurant, for example, operate? yes... As long as people understood the risk, people preparing the food perhaps used a profelactic remedy, and people were spaced out a bit more than usual.

            What happened is places like San Francisco took advantage of people's ignorance and destroyed livlihoods, so they could seen as being proactive with the virus. People in this country were faced with a real dilmna: What about civility? So, for example, I had no real problem wearing a mask for going out... But when it came to pushing the narrative, and shutting down businesses, it went too far. Notice how big business was exempt... Airlines for example, could not even be bothered to not seat the middle seat on flights...

            People are now asking why, if it was never established that masks were preventative, masks should be worn. And many of us would love to biatch slap politicians who could have acted in the public interest and explained that people were responsible for social distancing to prevent transmission, instead of acting against the people. What good is telling restaurants not to open, if people are sitting together in a park a block away? Either way, people are responsible for assuming the risk and government is limited what they can do.

            Will this wake people up? I doubt it. What about when China Joe destroys us and Washington is back to doing nothing for nobody? Will people wake up? doubt it. Trump is rumored to s hit on himself, and many people would not want to socialize with him... But Pelosi gets a pass? This women has, her entire life fed off the public trough and done nothing for anyone but her own interests and could not even be bothered to abide by her own self serving policies.
            A lot of folks don't understand that the mask was supposed to be for those who have something. So if someone is trying to wear a surgical mask to protect them from something air borne, that's not too likely.

            At work we get covid tested twice a week, and when we get our negative tests, you'd think that'd be enough to not have to wear the mask anymore(since there's nothing we should be passing since we just showed to be negative) yet we still have to wear a mask, but the thing that makes it worst, is rather than offer an explanation on why the mask is still needed, we're given a "shut up and do it" response.

            If wearing a mask makes people feel safe then whatever, but when you start doing the "shut up and do it" mentality, that's where my beef is

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              #26
              This is exactly how "fake news" starts. You get a bunch of agenda driven people "liking" a post that has no backing.

              I just checked the CDC website and there is no such evidence and OANN is an agenda driven news network back by the former President.

              Anyways, I hate wearing a mask, i think its ****** but common sense is it at least blocks droplets. Its like a condom doesnt protect you from ***** or herpes and u also run the risk of it breaking.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
                This is exactly how "fake news" starts. You get a bunch of agenda driven people "liking" a post that has no backing.

                I just checked the CDC website and there is no such evidence and OANN is an agenda driven news network back by the former President.

                Anyways, I hate wearing a mask, i think its ****** but common sense is it at least blocks droplets. Its like a condom doesnt protect you from ***** or herpes and u also run the risk of it breaking.
                after all the censoring, you don't think google is removing it from the search? it's still surprising to you that you can't find anything? heck even ebay is removing it's dr suess books. But what makes OAN an agenda driven news network, is there evidence on that or that it backs Trump? Because they're not reporting something you see on CNN that makes it agenda driven? So what do you call all the others?

                But there's the study right there. Like I mentioned to the previous poster, OAN is reporting an actual study, it'd be something if OAN was blowing shit out of their ass and making things up, yet how are they getting hated on for sharing an actual study?

                Fauchi himself last year said masks don't really do too much yet his tone has changed drastically. There's plenty of other studies that have shown masks weren't working.

                Wear the mask around elderly or people at risk, yet to shut down the economy or force people?
                Last edited by HrNY; 03-08-2021, 06:05 PM.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HrNY View Post

                  A lot of folks don't understand that the mask was supposed to be for those who have something. So if someone is trying to wear a surgical mask to protect them from something air borne, that's not too likely.

                  At work we get covid tested twice a week, and when we get our negative tests, you'd think that'd be enough to not have to wear the mask anymore(since there's nothing we should be passing since we just showed to be negative) yet we still have to wear a mask, but the thing that makes it worst, is rather than offer an explanation on why the mask is still needed, we're given a "shut up and do it" response.

                  If wearing a mask makes people feel safe then whatever, but when you start doing the "shut up and do it" mentality, that's where my beef is
                  Yes... that "shut up and do it" is toxic. I agree. It not only disrespectful but it demands that people buy into it. It is an insult to intelligence.

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                    #29
                    The linked study says the opposite of the linked story.


                    "Mandating masks was associated with a decrease in daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days of implementation"

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Furn View Post
                      The linked study says the opposite of the linked story.


                      "Mandating masks was associated with a decrease in daily COVID-19 case and death growth rates within 20 days of implementation"
                      Bottom line of the report:

                      At 81-100 days after a state wide mask mandate is put in place they show a 1.8% reduction in cases and a 1.9% reduction in deaths.

                      Specifically for restaurants that allowed on-premise dining, at 81-100 days after opening up they saw an increase in cases of 1.1% and a increase in deaths of 3.0%.

                      another study



                      another study



                      Cloth face masks in the general population might be effective, at least in some circumstances, but there is currently little to no evidence supporting this proposition. If the coronavirus is indeed transmitted via indoor aerosols, cloth masks are unlikely to be protective. Health authorities should therefore not assume or suggest that cloth face masks will reduce the rate or risk of infection.

                      CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese



                      This doesn't have to do with the original topic, but it is an interesting point.
                      Last edited by HrNY; 03-09-2021, 11:46 AM.

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