Impressed by AJ? I am sure as heck not!

[MisterPullman]

He looked ready to swallow it in the second round like he literally had nothing left, and I couldn't figure out why. Did he temporarily empty his tank? Was he still feeling the effects of the left hook? Was it a body shot? Im not sure but he looked ready to go. He regrouped and found his way back but still looked extremely open throughout the rest of the fight, he wasn't using his feet and had he been fighting someone who could reach him with a Right hand over the top I think he would have been taken out. Also just general observations, he lacks agility and angles, the way he delivers his punches is limited as a result, he is too upright, his jab isn't overly impressive its not a dominant weapon as it should be. I think Joshua is more Bruno then Lewis, he is a flawed talented fighter who has potential, but as I said before this fight the comparisons to Lewis are laughable at best. He just doesn't have that kind of talent, pedigree, or the early foundations to get to that sort of level, he started the game late and he will never become a savant like Lewis, doesn't mean he isn't going to have a lot of success and he does have ability.

On a positive note, he showed a huge heart to get through that, and his stamina didn't leave him even though his sharpness was lacking after 2-3 rounds. He has massive amounts of power and he is dangerous at any point in a fight at any distance. Dillian Whyte might also be better than what what most people are giving him credit for, its very hard to gauge these types of fights when two good prospects face each other early.

Good post.

Let's see Whyte verse someone with a pulse, then we can have a better idea.


I would kill to see Jennings vs Joshua. That should be Joshua's next goal if Jennings gets past Ortiz

[Furn]

only took up boxing like 6-7 years ago and has been a pro for 2 1/2 years.

Seriously, think before you post TS.

[dan_cov]

Unlike Joshua, Wilder has little to no background amateur experience. He's improving every fight, he's the real deal. Povetkin is a beast, especially being dwarfed by the average heavyweight nowadays. Jennings is great too. You can hate Fury all you want but you can't deny his boxing skills.

Wilder had around the same amount of amateur fights A.J did.
I think Wilder had 28 or so to A.Js 32-34 and I see no improvement just a guy who knows he is packing China fighting more cautiously.

Povetkin is decent but like you say undersized. I don't rate Jennings even in this shallow pool.
Fury is effective I wouldn't call him skillful or great or anything by any stretch.

I honestly think a legitimate world class heavyweight goes through the lot with little fuss. They would be merely contenders and gatekeepers in any other era.

[kiDynamite92]

He looked ready to swallow it in the second round like he literally had nothing left, and I couldn't figure out why. Did he temporarily empty his tank? Was he still feeling the effects of the left hook? Was it a body shot? Im not sure but he looked ready to go. He regrouped and found his way back but still looked extremely open throughout the rest of the fight, he wasn't using his feet and had he been fighting someone who could reach him with a Right hand over the top I think he would have been taken out. Also just general observations, he lacks agility and angles, the way he delivers his punches is limited as a result, he is too upright, his jab isn't overly impressive its not a dominant weapon as it should be. I think Joshua is more Bruno then Lewis, he is a flawed talented fighter who has potential, but as I said before this fight the comparisons to Lewis are laughable at best. He just doesn't have that kind of talent, pedigree, or the early foundations to get to that sort of level, he started the game late and he will never become a savant like Lewis, doesn't mean he isn't going to have a lot of success and he does have ability.

On a positive note, he showed a huge heart to get through that, and his stamina didn't leave him even though his sharpness was lacking after 2-3 rounds. He has massive amounts of power and he is dangerous at any point in a fight at any distance. Dillian Whyte might also be better than what what most people are giving him credit for, its very hard to gauge these types of fights when two good prospects face each other early.

Only people who knew sfa about boxing were comparing him to Lewis. He'll never reach Lewis.

[dan_cov]

People that think size and reach is now the be all and end all, its not. Its just these fighters for most part don't even have a jab let alone move their heads or feint their way in.

Stiverne, Chisora all these pressure fighters they can't even cut a ring off.

Its so terrible you have in truth a very sorry bunch flattering guys who are flat out mediocre at best.

If people want to claim guys who pull back in straight lines, bring their jabs back to their chests with their chin up, cross their feet and commit all these cardinal sins and really skilled and such its not even worth debating with.

Watching Pulev fight is like watching a kitten on its back legs paw at a toy with its front paws. The division is terrible and somehow getting worse but it seems this is how fans want it.

[kiDynamite92]

Just remember, Dillian probably has a lot of improvement left in him too. He's actually less experienced then Joshua who had a decent amateur background while Dillian had none because he wasn't allowed. In the pro's he only has 3 more fights while joshua competed in the worlds and Olympic Games. He did look like he was carrying a shoulder injury prior to the fight so I don't know how much that affected him.

[MisterPullman]

Wilder had around the same amount of amateur fights A.J did.
I think Wilder had 28 or so to A.Js 32-34 and I see no improvement just a guy who knows he is packing China fighting more cautiously.

Povetkin is decent but like you say undersized. I don't rate Jennings even in this shallow pool.
Fury is effective I wouldn't call him skillful or great or anything by any stretch.

I honestly think a legitimate world class heavyweight goes through the lot with little fuss. They would be merely contenders and gatekeepers in any other era.

AJ had 43 fights in all, 3 losses.
Wilder had only 23 fights in all, 3 losses.

AJ been fighting in the amateurs for 5 years before he turned pro.
Wilder been fighting in the amateurs for only 3 years before he turned pro.

[MisterPullman]

only took up boxing like 6-7 years ago and has been a pro for 2 1/2 years.

Seriously, think before you post TS.

Read through the thread please.

The hype Joshua is getting needs to stop, it'd be quite embarrassing for a David Price #2. I get he's a prospect but the people who compare him to the elites and greats already need to relax.

[eco1]

It was entertaining but Fury, Wladimir, Ortiz, Wilder all beat him.


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not Wilder, Wilder is truly a hype job who has fought no one.

[dan_cov]

AJ had 43 fights in all, 3 losses.
Wilder had only 23 fights in all, 3 losses.

AJ been fighting in the amateurs for 5 years before he turned pro.
Wilder been fighting in the amateurs for only 3 years before he turned pro.

It took Wilder over 30 pro fights to eventually step up, Joshua just fought a guy in his 15th pro fight that is probably at least as good as Stiverne (Wilders best win to date).

Before his world title shot Wilder fought Gavern, A.J fought him in about his 10th pro fight. We need to remember A.Js age too he is on the right track.