Why do people still challenge AJ more than Wilder ?

[kafkod]

I cant remember the exact situation but wasnt there some kind of weird stipulations like he had to sign the contract within 24 hours or some **** like that?

The stipulations were that AJ had to say he accepted the offer via social media before his manager, Shelly Finkel, would speak to Eddie Hearn about the details or send him a contract. And he had to do it within 24 hours, or the offer was off the table. Finkel tried to justify this ridiculous bullshit by saying that unless the offer was accepted first, talking about it "might not be productive"

[Willow The Wisp]

If Deontay Wilder did not just so happened to of ever held the WBC World Heavyweight title 'Then maybe you could rate fighters such as Dillian Whyte, Joseph Parker, Joe Joyce, Daniel Dubois and Andy Ruiz Junior over him. But the very fact that Deontay Wilder was the WBC World Heavyweight Champion, and made 10 successful defenses of his title. This elevates him way above all of those fighters'.

The three Heavyweight Mountains of this era are 'Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder. If this boxing era was made into a motion picture, then those three fighters would be the main characters. 90% of the entire movie, would be covering their careers and fights. All those other fighters you have just mentioned would not really be playing a major role in the movie, and only Oleksandr Uysk would come into prominence in the latter sagas of the motion picture. But in my opinion, not even Oleksandr Uysk and his role in this Heavyweight era would up stage Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder's contribution to the Division'.

Note: Tyson Fury was the first Heavyweight fighter in close to 10 years to breach the defenses of the Kiltschko occupation of the Heavyweight Division. And then Anthony Joshua forced Wladimir Kiltschko into retirement, beating him conclusively by knock out in the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years. Those catalytic events, took the Heavyweight Division into a completely new dynasty'.

By the time Oleksandr Uysk entered into the Heavyweight Division 'Most of the Heavyweight Division was already completely cleared out. All the most impactful, significant Heavyweight fights and sagas of the era had already taken place. Tyson Fury had already disappeared from the game unfortunately due to his then circumstance, and then his return. The Greatest Heavyweight Trilogy since Rid**** Bowe vs Evander Holyfield in Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury. The Greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years in Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua. Andy Ruiz Junior's victory over Anthony Joshua, and then Joshua immediately avenging that loss and becoming a Two Time World Heavyweight Champion'.

That is the main synopsis of this Heavyweight era 'Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder have all been involved in the most significant Heavyweight fights of this era. All of the major catalytic moments of this era have involved those three fighters. That is why in part I refer to them as the three Heavyweight mountains of this era'.

I personally rate Oleksandr Uysk as the pound for pound best fighter in the world 'And he has achieved this rating, due to his two wins over Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. Which I regard as the greatest pound for pound wins in the sport of the past 15 years. Oleksandr Uysk is also the most accomplished active fighter in the sport, he has achieved the pinnacle at all levels of the sport. Olympic Champion, and two times Undisputed Champion in the Cruiserweight and Heavyweight Division's'.

To conclude: Oleksandr Uysk to his credit entered the Heavyweight Division at a opportune time 'Which in my opinion aided him in his quest to become the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World. If Uysk would have entered the Heavyweight Division just a few years earlier, then he would have had to of beaten more top level Heavyweight fighters. The only reason why he went straight into fighting Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. Was because? The Heavyweight Division had already been cleared out in combination by Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder'.

So when I describe Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder 'As the Three Heavyweight Mountains of this era. It is because they have been the bench mark, they have been the three summits for the large majority of this Heavyweight era. It has ultimately been their era, because they fought on all the major battle fronts taking in all comers as Champions. But Oleksandr Uysk has taken the ultimate victory in becoming the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion' etc.

Very, very good post, PRINCEKOOL. You've summed up the era perfectly here. The three mountains certainly don't require that I defend their long and difficult campaigns in the division, but it's always discouraging to see some pedestrian being critical when it isn't warranted, towards any accomplished boxer; in this case, a 10 title defense Olympic medalist who's power is among the greatest in history.
In aid of defending Deontay Wilder, I am too often compelled to favorably compare his abilities to those of competing title claimant Joshua; and subsequently express pejorative views regarding Joshua; which is wholly unfair, as both exceptional fighters hold their own collection of strengths and weaknesses in the natural order.

.....And by gum, I might have at it again, by adding to the list of seminal moments of the era, that the lodged lineal world's champion Fury and the murderous WBC title holder Wilder took career shortening fire attempting to unify the belts back to the liniage, whilst Joshua sat outside the circle with his fat resume, stumbling and falling against unranked late replacements; and thus, he must rank just underneath Fury and Wilder within the era.

[Willow The Wisp]

I posted links to sources to back up what I said.

Where are your links? Or do you want us to just take your word for it?

I wouldn't. He's not a good source of information. Anyone who beleives these printed interpretations of closed door negotiations is a newbe. Wilder turned down 100 million to face an easily hurt fellow beltholder. Riiiiiight.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Very, very good post, PRINCEKOOL. You've summed up the era perfectly here. The three mountains certainly don't require that I defend their long and difficult campaigns in the division, but it's always discouraging to see some pedestrian being critical when it isn't warranted, towards any accomplished boxer; in this case, a 10 title defense Olympic medalist who's power is among the greatest in history.
In aid of defending Deontay Wilder, I am too often compelled to favorably compare his abilities to those of competing title claimant Joshua; and subsequently express pejorative views regarding Joshua; which is wholly unfair, as both exceptional fighters hold their own collection of strengths and weaknesses in the natural order.

.....And by gum, I might have at it again, by adding to the list of seminal moments of the era, that the lodged lineal world's champion Fury and the murderous WBC title holder Wilder took career shortening fire attempting to unify the belts back to the liniage, whilst Joshua sat outside the circle with his fat resume, stumbling and falling against unranked late replacements; and thus, he must rank just underneath Fury and Wilder within the era.

Cheers man, thanks.

Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder as champions actually done more of the clearing out of the Heavyweight Division than Tyson Fury 'But Fury achieved the most impactful, and catalytic win in beating Wladimir Kiltschko. If Tyson Fury did not beat Wladimir Kiltschko, then disappear unfortunately due to his then circumstance. Anthony Joshua would not have fought Wladimir KIltschko in his 19th professional fight, and forced the Heavyweight Division into a completely new dynasty. In the Greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years, and of this boxing era'.

Note: To their credit both Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder as Heavyweight Champions, took on all comers 'Wilder fought contenders based in America, and Joshua fought all the contenders based predominantly in mainland Europe throughout his career. Tyson Fury as a Heavyweight Champion did not really take on all comers, as he seemed to be more focused on only fighting top level fights if he really had to as a fighter. It was Deontay Wilder that had to force both the rematch, and trilogy fight with Tyson Fury. But in combination all three Heavyweight Mountains effectively cleared out the entire Heavyweight Division'.

I honestly still believe that at their absolute peak 'Both Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, had the ability to beat Uysk. And I would still back Joshua to beat Uysk if a trilogy fights is ever made, I still don't think neither Fury or Joshua are intimidated by Uysk's abilities. But they definitively respect and rate his ability. and have acknowledged that he has been the better fighter during their title fights'.

To conclude: Currently right now Tyson Fury is retired 'But it looks like he is potentially looking to challenge Oleksandr Uysk III for the third time. Both Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder are in a similar position, do they fight each other in a high jeopardy fight? Or do they fight other top level fighters? Because I would not be surprised if the Heavyweight titles are distributed and spread out throughout the Heavyweight Division. Because it does not look like Oleksandr Usyk, although he is a great champion is game to defend all of his titles. Uysk has already vacated the IBF title, and is very close to ether vacating or being stripped of his WBO titles' etc.