Comments Thread For: Peace of his mind: Ryan Garcia says he has 'gotten back to reality'

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Look it up! Great bodily harm could mean disfigurement or permanent damage.

We don’t know how much if any did that illegal beat down took out of Devin Haney; Both physically or mentally.

Ryan is lucky his ass plead guilty in order to avoid jail time or a possible prison sentence for doing that foul sh[COLOR=#000000]it![/COLOR]

This is quite the stretch....

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You don't know if Garcia could even #1 land those punches without assistance and #2 punches have the effect they did without assistance.

I've seen this retarded argument quite a lot on here, that Haney's lack of fundamentals somehow meaning that PED's aren't going to enhance an athletes ability to land punches, with more speed and more velocity and it is beyond stupid.

There is a direct correlation between PED use being able to "catch someone over and over again" that's literally one of the many reasons why a fighter would use PEDs.

Haney could have the worst fundamentals in the history of the sport it doesn't change the fact that Garcia fought him with PEDs in his system meaning we don't know what he can do if he didn't.

Ok but they says the amount of osterine was so minuscule it shouldn’t of affected the fight they didn’t ban or suspend Ryan for having in his system cause it was to low for it

they suspended for supposedly not regulating or checking his supplements imagine that

Besides that guys Vargas was on steroids when he lost Oscar

amir khan was on osterine when kell broken stopped him
meaning Haney was always overrated
Aka he doesn’t have a lot skill and mostly a weight bully but he couldn’t weight bully Ryan lol

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This is quite the stretch....

Dude acts like he not a Haney fan boy judging by his reactions
but I’m not saying Ryan is completely innocent either

[IronDanHamza]

Ok but they says the amount of osterine was so minuscule it shouldn’t of affected the fight

Already responded and attempted to educate you on this garbage point. Did you not read the reply I already gave you on this?

That's the same case for 99% of fighters who have ever popped for PED's. It's always a trace amount because fighters who are using PED's are masking them in one way or another. So when they do get caught, it's always a trace. Just because he was popped for a trace doesn't mean he was only using trace amounts.

they didn’t ban or suspend Ryan for having in his system cause it was to low for it

Erm, yes they did. That's a flat out lie you've just attempted to tell there. You have no idea what you're talking about. Why comment on something that you clearly haven't the first clue about?

Trace amounts are still above the threshold to test positive, which he did, twice.

they suspended for supposedly not regulating or checking his supplements imagine that

No, they suspended him because he tested positive for PED's two separate times.

Besides that guys Vargas was on steroids when he lost Oscar

amir khan was on osterine when kell broken stopped him
meaning Haney was always overrated
Aka he doesn’t have a lot skill and mostly a weight bully but he couldn’t weight bully Ryan lol

Are you just not reading what I'm responding with or just choosing to ignore it? I've already responded to and addressed this moronic argument also.

That's irrelevant.

All that means is that even with the unfair advantage that particular fighter still wasn't good enough to win. That doesn't change the fact that the unfair advantage is present and if you are to beat someone with that unfair advantage then you beat them whilst having it.

[billeau2]

Ryan has a lot of talent. I do not think he will go the way of Broner, but yes it is possible.
When posters say we do not know what the effects of the roids were regarding Ryan this is a fact... One can speculate about the amounts, etc but facts are facts.
People use the law as a defense of Haney and I do not buy it. Yes technically what Ryan did was against laws and Haney found a more legal way to cheat. Haney has basically been coming in as a much bigger opponent... In fact he weighed more than Ryan for the fight according to what I looked up! He was certainly bigger than Prograis who was supposed to be fighting as the larger man.

Hankey is a chinney guy who has learned a way to hydrate up fast to come in much bigger than his opponent and alas, nobody forced him to allow the fight to happen. Ryan will probably finish the job if they are allowed to fight again, I am watching to see how Bill Haney manages to avoid a follow up fight with Cryin. He most certanly has to know his son will very likely not be able to deal with Ryan without extensive weight draining clauses, and without their own perfected methods of legally cheating. Even the dwarf Davis did not allow Ryan to come in able for their fight.

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Already responded and attempted to educate you on this garbage point. Did you not read the reply I already gave you on this?

That's the same case for 99% of fighters who have ever popped for PED's. It's always a trace amount because fighters who are using PED's are masking them in one way or another. So when they do get caught, it's always a trace. Just because he was popped for a trace doesn't mean he was only using trace amounts.



Erm, yes they did. That's a flat out lie you've just attempted to tell there. You have no idea what you're talking about. Why comment on something that you clearly haven't the first clue about?

Trace amounts are still above the threshold to test positive, which he did, twice.




No, they suspended him because he tested positive for PED's two separate times.



Are you just not reading what I'm responding with or just choosing to ignore it? I've already responded to and addressed this moronic argument also.

That's irrelevant.

All that means is that even with the unfair advantage that particular fighter still wasn't good enough to win. That doesn't change the fact that the unfair advantage is present and if you are to beat someone with that unfair advantage then you beat them whilst having it.

Everyone knows it wasn’t really the steroids even they haneys know deep down it was do to a bad game plan lol
they just want the charade to continue
Haney isn’t that good

[IronDanHamza]

Everyone knows it wasn’t really the steroids even they haneys know deep down it was do to a bad game plan lol
they just want the charade to continue
Haney isn’t that good

Already addressed that nonsense statement also. It's either you can't read or you're choosing not to read.

Nobody knows that. All we know is what Garcia can do to Haney whilst having the assistance of PEDs.

That is objectively all we know.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Already addressed that nonsense statement also. It's either you can't read or you're choosing not to read.

Nobody knows that. All we know is what Garcia can do to Haney whilst having the assistance of PEDs.

That is objectively all we know.

Not trying to defend Ryan for popping dirty nor trying to suggest that Ryan is a better boxer than Devin. Yes, we all saw Ryan drop Devin multiple times with his left hook and we know that he tested positive for Ostarine.

We also know that Ryan has a powerful, lightning fast left hook and we know that he's put down most of his opponents with that same left hook. Knowing all that, without Ostarine in his body and Devin fighting the exact same way, do you believe that Ryan is able to land that left hook? If he's able to land the left hook, do you believe Ryan is able to drop and hurt Devin??

[IronDanHamza]

Not trying to defend Ryan for popping dirty nor trying to suggest that Ryan is a better boxer than Devin. Yes, we all saw Ryan drop Devin multiple times with his left hook and we know that he tested positive for Ostarine.

We also know that Ryan has a powerful, lightning fast left hook and we know that he's put down most of his opponents with that same left hook. Knowing all that, without Ostarine in his body and Devin fighting the exact same way, do you believe that Ryan is able to land that left hook? If he's able to land the left hook, do you believe Ryan is able to drop and hurt Devin??

Maybe, maybe not.

We won't know that until they fight again.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Maybe, maybe not.

We won't know that until they fight again.

Ok, let me try it another way. I'm just wanting to know your honest answer, mind you. Before the night of the fight last year, did you believe that Ryan had a puncher's chance of winning the fight at all? If your answer is no, well than it's no, but if your answer is yes, would it be due to Ryan's left hook?