Why did Fury struggle with Wallin?

[NihonJim]

I know he got cut early, bad luck but still, Wallin is absolute trash and Fury should have been able to just step over his front foot and **** him out of there in a couple of rounds once the cut happened.

Was there some style issue or is fury simply just that inconsistent.

[famicommander]

Because he's a lazy clown who fights to the level of his competition. Just like when he went life and death with Ngannou and McDermott, or when he got dropped by Neven Pajkic.

[dan_cov]

A bit of a style issue.
He's never been fantastic vs southpaws even dating back to his amateur days.

Possibly coupled with him being a bit overrated.
His best performances came against the two best opponents - I think you can either argue he fights up and down to his competition or see it as they're both extremely limited punchers. Anyone with a little more than a 1-2 or minus the 1 in Wilders case tends to often give him trouble.

[Marchegiano]

He's overrated

[JakeTheBoxer]

Fury is a lazy man and fights to the level of his opponent His best ever fights are Usyk fights. And, despite a huge cut on Fury's face, Wallin won 3 ronds maybe.

People should stop hyping Wallin for that fight. Ok, he didn't lose 12 ronds, but 9 rounds. Something like Chisora against Usyk?

Wallin' s best fight is Gassiev fight, not losing to Fury.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Fury is highly overrated and inconsistent and lazy. He got dropped by and, round by round, should have lost to the MMA debutante... If he beat Ngannou, it was on the strength of ONE extra jab being scored over a cut opened from an uppercut..

His hype is based on what? Beating a washed Klitschko while on PEDs, while Klitschko threw a career low number of punches? Deontay Wilder, who was never skilled, but still dropped him several times across their trilogy (which was admittedly fun to watch)?

[deathofaclown]

It wasn't particularly close, 9-3 kinda fight and he fought with one eye.

But its Fury, his performances are simply down to how he rates his opponents. If he thinks it's gonna be easy, he under performs and makes it hard work. That's one of his flaws.

You only have to look at his last 3 fights. He thought Ngannou offered no threat at all and he looked garbage. He was far better in the Usyk fights, despite not winning.

That's all it was. He just felt Wallin was gonna be a knockover job and didn't need to be on it, and gave himself a harder night than it needed to be.

[deathofaclown]

Fury is highly overrated and inconsistent and lazy. He got dropped by and, round by round, should have lost to the MMA debutante... If he beat Ngannou, it was on the strength of ONE extra jab being scored over a cut opened from an uppercut..

His hype is based on what? Beating a washed Klitschko while on PEDs, while Klitschko threw a career low number of punches? Deontay Wilder, who was never skilled, but still dropped him several times across their trilogy (which was admittedly fun to watch)?

he tested clean for the Wlad fight. It was the Hammer fight where the positive test came from. He was clean in his tests for Wlad though, which is why Wlad could never appeal.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Lack of power and brute strength. Tyson Fury is a Super Heavyweight fighter, but? He does not have Super Heavyweight power. Tyson Fury has never been a fighter who at top level, can turn a fight around in an instant. The only single time Tyson Fury has been able to do this, at a fairly solid level was against Dillian Whyte. And you could tell by how Tyson Fury and his team celebrated? That they did not expect such a knockout to occur in that fight.

I believe it was Toney Bellew who stated in the aftermath of that fight in his own words of course 'Heavyweight punchers, real monster punchers. Don't celebrate knockouts the way Tyson Fury and his team did vs Dillian Whyte'.

I have always regarded that knockout of Tyson Fury's vs Dillian Whyte 'As a fluke knockout. And trust me? Tyson Fury needed something in that fight to actually separate himself from Dillian Whyte. There was nothing in the fight in my opinion, and although Whyte was not winning the fight. He was competitive, and able to push Tyson Fury in most of the rounds. Fury was doing nothing much, fighting off the back foot. But because this was Tyson Fury, the media tried their upmost best to convince the surface level casual viewers that Tyson Fury was producing a skill for skill master class of boxing'.

Tyson Fury struggled against Otto Wallin because? Wallin skill for skill is actually a solid fighter, and he is rather durable up until a certain level. Tyson Fury is a great fighter, and he is one of the three heavyweight mountains of this era. But fundamentally as a fighter, he is clumsy and prone to making unforced errors in all of his fights at top level.

Therefore against Otto Wallin, stylistically the fight was in retrospect potentially always going to be abit of a difficult fight for Fury 'Because Tyson Fury does not have the offensive skill and power of a fighter like Anthony Joshua. Otto Wallin in that stylistically match up, at his best? May bring to the surface of Fury's game, his innate clumsiness and propensity to make unforced errors over the distance'.

Tyson Fury also has never really been able to bull fighters, who he did not outweigh by 40 to 50 + pounds 'Historically the only fighters Tyson Fury has fought on the the front foot, and won against in impressive fashion. Were Deontay Wilder II and Steve USS Cunningham, that is it. Tyson Fury outweighed both of those fighters by 40 + pounds. To be specific Fury out weight Deontey Wilder by 42 pounds, and Steve USS Cunningham by 44 pounds'.

Note: Tyson Fury fought Wladimir Kiltschko on the back foot; he was backed up for almost the entire 12 rounds of the fight. Tyson Fury fought Derek Chisora three times, in the first fight? Tyson Fury fought an agressive front foot fight, and was battered by Derek Chisora in a competitive fight. The reaming two fights of the trilogy Tyson Fury fought Derek Chisora on the back foot. Tyson Fury fought Francis Ngannou on the back foot, after first deciding to come out aggressively but? Francis Ngannou soon decked him, and forced Fury to alter his tactics.

And of course most recently Tyson Fury lost two fights back to back vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'And in both fights, Oleksandr Uysk was the stronger front foot fighter. Uysk bulled Fury in the first fight and smashed him up in round 9. And during the second fight? Tyson Fury although he fought a better fight fundamentally, Fury was reluctant to charge forward and impose his Super Heavyweight mass. Tyson Fury outweighed Oleksandr Uysk in their rematch by 55 pounds'.

To conclude: So, taking all of those factors into consideration when analysing the fight between Tyson Fury and Otto Wallin 'Fury did not outweigh Wallin by 40 + pounds. And Otto Wallin fundamentally was a solid fighter. Tyson Fury vs Otto Wallin weighed in at 254 pounds vs 236 pounds of Otto Wallin. Tyson Fury only outweighed Wallin by 18 pounds, which is vast amount of weight for certain fighters. But it was not a big enough weight differential for Tyson Fury to bull Otto Wallin on fight night'.

It was only after this fight did? Tyson Fury decides to embrace being a super heavyweight 'That fight was the last time Fury, weighed in at under 260 pounds. And I have always been of the opinion, that this was a tactical career move by Tyson Fury. Up until that point in Fury's comeback? He had been trying to duplicate his former old school Riddler style and conditioning. But Tyson Fury was no longer training with Peter Fury, who was the boxing coach who refined that style of Fury's'.

Tyson Fury before his rematch vs Deontay Wilder II 'Made the conscious decision to alter his approach to training and fighting. Fury went from weighing 254 pounds, to 273 pounds vs Deontay Wilder II'.

Tyson Fury just before he fought Deontay Wilder II 'Was interviewed by Gareth A. Davies. Fury stated in this interview 'That he had altered his training, and approach to being a heavyweight fighter. This was the moment in boxing history, were Kronk Fury appeared'.

So, overall the reason why Tyson Fury struggled against Otto Wallin 'Was because stylistically Fury was not strong enough in the areas of his game, at that stage of his career to bull Otto Wallin. Fury was still in the process of trying to duplicate his former old school Riddler style and conditioning. Otto Wallin was durable enough to withstand Fury's power, and skill for skill he was good enough to make the rounds competitive' etc.

[crimsonfalcon07]

he tested clean for the Wlad fight. It was the Hammer fight where the positive test came from. He was clean in his tests for Wlad though, which is why Wlad could never appeal.

The samples were taken between February and March 2015, ahead of the Klitschko fight.





That certainly could be because he had it in his system during the Hammer fight, but regardless, he had it in his system prior to the first fight and then immediately failed another test prior to the rematch, leading him to vacate the belts ahead of being stripped. He also accused Klitschko of trying to spike his water to make him fail a drug test for their fight. Do you really believe he was clean for the Klitschko fight?