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    #21
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Usyk best a man coming off terrible fight against francis. .But ok, if powers that be want usyk at no1, well done usyk.
    A panel of boxing experts chose the P4P rankings so the powers that be really have nothing to do with it, Usyk earned it

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      #22
      Usyk has the most impressive wins due to size of opponent, however I don't think he does have the most impressive wins based on skill level of the opponent and fashion of victory.

      I suppose it's what you prefer.
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        #23
        Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post
        Usyk has the most impressive wins due to size of opponent, however I don't think he does have the most impressive wins based on skill level of the opponent and fashion of victory.

        I suppose it's what you prefer.
        Give an example of a better win for Crawford or Inoue....

        I don't see it.

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          #24
          Oleksandr Usyk is the number one pound for pound and is the Greatest Heavyweight of this generation! He's also an All-Time Great!
          Last edited by Someone88; 05-23-2024, 08:13 AM.
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            #25
            Originally posted by famicommander View Post
            Usyk over Crawford is a reasonable take but saying it's because of activity is ******. They've both fought once per year since 2018, neither have been active.
            Fury and Josh are better than any bud wins. It's nothing about activity here. Just take bigger challenges is the advice for bud
            Last edited by hugh grant; 05-23-2024, 09:32 AM.
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              #26
              Originally posted by fifth_root

              How does that happen - Fury is a bum or or hyped the least, Dubois is a quitter, Chisora is a faded B-level fighter, no point in even evaluating Chazz. So Usyk's only good victory is AJ. Some fans or anti-fans must be confused now. He will probably go as an ATG, but a thin one. 22 victories aren't close to what solid ATGs did.

              P4P is *tuрid. Just leave fighters to be great as they are.

              If anyone ever proved that size doesn't matter, those should be Tyson and Holyfield (and Marciano going back in time).
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              A good thread about this: Most Dangerous/Powerful Weight Classes By KO Percentage - Boxing Forum (jeetwin55.com)​. Some research outside of boxing confirms the same for MMA - the higher the division, the higher the KO ratio is: ​.

              The lighter fighters suffer no less damage to the brain because they accumulate more punches over their career but this, being related in a way, is also different statistics and health concern.
              Unbelievably ignorant post in general

              Look no further than the current P4P list from every reputable source and just about every boxing expert solidifying Usyk's current status

              This had to be a deliberate troll job
              Last edited by Boxing Goat; 05-24-2024, 07:47 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

                Unbelievably ignorant post in general

                Look no further than the current P4P list from every reputable source and just about every boxing expert solidifying Usyk's current status

                This had to be a deliberate troll job
                Yeah, the usual "I can't think of better argument than you are a troll". I bet you find yourself smart.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by fifth_root View Post

                  Yeah, the usual "I can't think of better argument than you are a troll". I bet you find yourself smart.
                  WAY smarter than you

                  And the Usyk track record and accomplishments of literally cleaning out the two heaviest divisions is a self promoted argument that anyone with any boxing knowledge at all, full well recognizes.

                  And now I think it's way funnier that you were actually being serious

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

                    WAY smarter than you

                    And the Usyk track record and accomplishments of literally cleaning out the two heaviest divisions is a self promoted argument that anyone with any boxing knowledge at all, full well recognizes.

                    And now I think it's way funnier that you were actually being serious
                    Yep, a classical Duning-Kruger.

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                      #30
                      I have always regarded Oleksandr Uysk as pound for pound one of the best fighters in the World 'In terms of physical feats of achievement, his performances vs Joshua and Fury are greater than anything that has been achieved in the lower weight classes during these past few years'.

                      When David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, fought Derek Chisora 'Who weighed in at 247 pounds. Haye became the first fighter to fight, Chisora head on meet force with force and cancel out his momentum. Haye knocked out Chisora inside 5 rounds'.

                      Derek Chisora suffered his first ever knock-out loss to David Haye, and after this fight? Chisora would not be decked for another 7 years almost, Chisora fought 18 more times before eventually being legitimately knocked out again by Dillian Whyte.

                      David Haye also beat Nikolai Valuev 'The weight differential between the fighters was 7 stone. Haye weighed in at 218 pounds, vs Valuev 315 pounds'.

                      All of those performances for me at Heavyweight, are by far more impressive than most of the boxing performances that have happened in the lower weight classes in the past 15 years for sure 'In terms of what it took the skill and the physical effort, for Uysk and Haye to achieve such feats'.

                      Note: I believe those type of performances prove why the Heavyweight Division in terms of pure competition 'Is the best division in the sport'. The Heavyweight Division is a open class division, which in reality? Nature itself is open class, most other sports compete in a open class environment

                      Track and field Athletes have appeared with all different types of dimensions, from Linford Christie, Carl Lewis, Maurice Greene, Usain Bolt, Donavan Bailey 'All of their statues are varied, because Track and Field Athletics competes on a open class field, with the main objective to see who is the best in the World'.

                      The Heavyweight Division in boxing, is the only division really where people can witness two fighters, compete with each other with the primary objective to win 'That is a Heavyweight Fighters primary objective above everything else, and because of this? For me this produces a more pure form of competition'.

                      There are no weight limits, catch weights or rehydration clauses 'There is only two competitors, preparing with the primary objective of winning. Regardless of what their natural weight is, or dimensions. That description of the competitive environment, is very close to how nature itself operates'.

                      Fighters in the lower weight classes, are sometimes training to make the weight first, then to win 'Especially during the era of the day before weigh in rule being used'.

                      The competition on the lower weight classes in this modern era, in my opinion is lower than ever in terms of 'Raw pure competition'. And this has been highly influenced by the toxic modern day weight draining culture etc.




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