Comments Thread For: Bozy Ennis Happy With Cruz But Rules Out Boots For Benn

[ptek]

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So what you are saying is Boots fighting Crowley is also keeping himself busy.
I’m guessing anyone that steps up to fight Boots, he should fight them because they “stepped up”.

Perhaps that’s the rest on Bud fighting Teofimo is great because Teo “stepped up”?

Do you know who Bud fought in his 30th fight? Felix Diaz. And on his glorious 25th fight, Bud fought Thomas Dulorne! Who the hell are those two guys?

The hypocrisy, double standards AND lack of boxing historical facts here is unreal.

That Diaz fight was a good fight defending his WBO & WBC title and
that Thomas Dulorne fight was for the WBO 140 vacant title.

When did Boot win or defending his WBO and WBC Title ??,

Has Boot's ever gone up in weight and fought for a vacant title ???

The answer is No and No.

And you wanna chat about double standards and facts....Lol

Don't make me laugh.

As for Teo, isn't he the 140lb WBO Champion, why hasn't he activated his WBO Mando to fight Crawford at 147lbs. ??

WBO president just informed the boxing world Crawford's has activated his WBO Mando at 154lbs to fight Ozzie Tim, after this Thurman fight.

See how that sh.. work's,

Not chatting **** just making moves behind closed doors, not name dropping or clout chasing like Teofimos lame fake a fck ass.

Just legacy history and realness.

[Oregonian]

That Diaz fight was a good fight defending his WBO & WBC title and
that Thomas Dulorne fight was for the WBO 140 vacant title.

When did Boot win or defending his WBO and WBC Title ??, Has Boot's ever gone up in weight and fought for a vacant title ???

The answer is No and No.

And you wanna chat about double standards and facts....Lol

Don't make me laugh.

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Boots is 26 years old and started his career at 147.
Do you not understand those two facts or are you just a casual fan?

Do you want Boots to go up in weight before he’s even had a chance to clean up 147? Is that what Bud did? He skipped 135 and 140 to go straight to 147? Is that what happened?
If the Diaz fight was good, then the Villa fight for Boots was good since the two guys at WW had no interest in fighting him. Amiright?
As for the Dulorme fight, when Bud vacates any of the other titles and Boots fights for it, it’ll be a good fight since Budddud just that?

The logic in your argument proves one thing only - you started watching boxing less than 10 years ago.

[cruz1383]

I agree with what your are saying but there is a caveat, the powers to be in the background can cause fighters to be frozen, there is so much BS behind the scenes that derails potential fights for all sorts of reasons, was only just watching a Thurman interview where he spoke of 3 fights over the last year that he had signed contracts on and all of them didnt materialize for one reason or another and non was his fault and he talks about the complicated bs within the sport.

I don't know what the story is with Ennis only that he was suing his promotional team so I think that would put a cap on acquiring fights, remember how Ward was derailed for years over the same sort of thing, as fans we get such a distorted view to what really goes on in the back room all we get is story after story in a Ferris Wheel of click bait.

I have seen that also but at the end of the day Ennis signed with this promotor just like all the others that have been steamrolled by promotors like Mikey Garcia etc.. you hear of all these stories but the fighters keep doing the same thing.

Dela hoya signed with top rank then had to get out of his contract then Mayweather and Cotto both did the same followed by Pacman..these fighters only see money and don't see that most of these promotors are just like Don King and taking there money by paying them less.

I don't know how boxing is going to get out of this mess but it only hurts the fighters and the fans. fighters also want to change there contracts in the middle of it after a big fight and that doesn't help them. They don't understand that contracts don't work like that.

It would be like the average person buying a house and then the house next door sells for 100k less and you want to some how haggle your existing contract but it doesn't work like that. Some fighters are lucky and they can buy out there contracts but some fighters never put that provision into there original contracts so they are screwed getting paid less while other fighters that aren't better than you are making more.

[tomhawq]

I need to see a date of Ennis' next fight for the next news article. Otherwise, I'm not interested. Waste of storage space in my brain.

[ptek]

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Boots is 26 years old and started his career at 147.
Do you not understand those two facts or are you just a casual fan?

Do you want Boots to go up in weight before he’s even had a chance to clean up 147? Is that what Bud did? He skipped 135 and 140 to go straight to 147? Is that what happened?
If the Diaz fight was good, then the Villa fight for Boots was good since the two guys at WW had no interest in fighting him. Amiright?
As for the Dulorme fight, when Bud vacates any of the other titles and Boots fights for it, it’ll be a good fight since Budddud just that?

The logic in your argument proves one thing only - you started watching boxing less than 10 years ago.

Forget it, Boot's ain't about that smoke period.

It's easy to see , and anybody can see it.

You can defend boots all you like , Lol

doesn't change the facts that right now, 2024, boot ain't done sh..,

And remains a hype jjob till proven otherwise .

How's that for logic.

[Oregonian]

Forget it, Boot's ain't about that smoke period.

It's easy to see , and anybody can see it.

You can defend boots all you like , Lol

doesn't change the facts that right now, 2024, boot ain't done sh..,

And remains a hype jjob till proven otherwise .

How's that for logic.

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Classic response. I counter your logic with facts and you know it so you shift goal posts to 2024. So, what exactly has Bud done in 2024?
He’s ducking the one guy that will beat him by saying he brings nothing to the table. I’m guessing Brook and Kavaliauskas brought a lot to the table.

How’s that for logic?

[Combat Talk Radio]

your argument would be true if Benn had a title. Benn literally has nothing for Boots ( although I would like to see that fight). While Crawford has the whole division (all the belts). For Crawford to say Boots doesn't have anything well no one at 147 has anything because Crawford has everything lol

on a side note Crawford isn't getting any older and he's gotta do something ?? Waiting around for one eyed Spence isn't good. I mean Spence has had 2 car accidents one was life threatening 2 major eye surgeries and cant make 147lbs... how does that look for Crawford?? Whatever anyone may think of Crawford Spence is completely damaged goods Crawford winning another fight VS one eyed spence means nothing. The only person that has anything to gain is Spence with a 90-10 chance of losing the rematch.

Crawford does NOT have the IBF. Remember? "COME GET YO BELT BACK!"

Boots has something for him, he just doesn't want it.

Conor Benn has nothing but a last name at this point. And since he's been getting taken the full distance recently, NSB will trash Boots for taking that fight after the fact.

[Combat Talk Radio]

SRL never ducked Pryor, never. Follow the time-line.

That's what NSB and the main****** has said for years.

SOOOO why did Ray Leonard DUCK DUCK Aaron PRYOR???? <<NSB

Was Aaron Pryor ducked by the "Big Three"? - Boxing Forum

Who Did Sugar Ray Leonard Duck? - Boxing Forum << NSB

Prime Aaron Pryor v s Prime Julio Cesar Chavez who you got? <<NSB, read the commentary

Tons more, you get the point.


Aaron Pryor says he was offered $500k to fight Leonard, refused it because he felt he deserved way more; fans think Leonard lowballed Pryor to duck him

On and on....

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We know that in '82 they were supposed to fight, Leonard has the detached retina so it doesn't happen, yet Leonard came back and fought all sorts of cats between '82 and 84' OTHER than Pryor. '84 he has more retina issues and Pryor had drug issues that he never really recovered from. Then obviously Leonard was on a steep decline himself.

So the 'sweet spot' for that fight was immediately after the first retina issue; but Leonard wasn't seeking that fight. It's valid to question why.

DO I think Leonard specifically ducked him? No. Do I think Leonard lowballed just a bit given how much money would have shown up that night? Absolutely.

But remember, that was around the time the belt orgs were starting to get more divided. IBF shows up and gifts Pryor a belt after he got stripped for inactivity by the WBA, only to have IBF turn around and strip him too. Plus the whole Arguello/Panama Lewis situation which likely mentally F'd with Pryor.

[brettWall]

That's what NSB and the main****** has said for years.

NSB should ban your for using their name to advance your narratives. They don't represent every opinion that is said in this forum. One to three people don't represent NSB.

You should know this of all people who own a podcast. "Views and opinions expressed in this forum don't necessarily reflect..."

[garfios]

That's what NSB and the main****** has said for years.

SOOOO why did Ray Leonard DUCK DUCK Aaron PRYOR???? <<NSB

Was Aaron Pryor ducked by the "Big Three"? - Boxing Forum

Who Did Sugar Ray Leonard Duck? - Boxing Forum << NSB

Prime Aaron Pryor v s Prime Julio Cesar Chavez who you got? <<NSB, read the commentary

Tons more, you get the point.


Aaron Pryor says he was offered $500k to fight Leonard, refused it because he felt he deserved way more; fans think Leonard lowballed Pryor to duck him

On and on....

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We know that in '82 they were supposed to fight, Leonard has the detached retina so it doesn't happen, yet Leonard came back and fought all sorts of cats between '82 and 84' OTHER than Pryor. '84 he has more retina issues and Pryor had drug issues that he never really recovered from. Then obviously Leonard was on a steep decline himself.

So the 'sweet spot' for that fight was immediately after the first retina issue; but Leonard wasn't seeking that fight. It's valid to question why.

DO I think Leonard specifically ducked him? No. Do I think Leonard lowballed just a bit given how much money would have shown up that night? Absolutely.

But remember, that was around the time the belt orgs were starting to get more divided. IBF shows up and gifts Pryor a belt after he got stripped for inactivity by the WBA, only to have IBF turn around and strip him too. Plus the whole Arguello/Panama Lewis situation which likely mentally F'd with Pryor.

He wants to fight Leonard, and it is easy for him to move down to lightweight, Pryor, where's the duck? Leonard fought Benitez in 79 for the WW belt, Duran 1, 06/1980, Duran 2 11/1980, while Aaron was fighting in 08/1980 for his first belt against Cervantes, in 06/1981 Leonard moved up to 154lbs and challenged Kalule three months later he fought Hearns, while Pryor was fighting Arguello at 140, after the Arguello fight he disappears for a while and was later known he had a drugs/alcohol addiction, so check the timeline and tell me when did Leonard duck a smaller fighter and why? When he was fighting Duran twice, Hearns, Benitez, and Kalule(don't let his name fool you, he was a heck of a fighter and Olympic Silver medal winner). That duck was a sentimental thing, there was no clamoring for that fight to be made and back then boxers didn't move up as they do today, Duran first, and Leonard later started that trend. While Pryor was a fighting machine, the perception was that Leonard would have killed him just like Hearns due to the gap in size. And that comment you posted is bullS, Leonard was fighting killers and if the fight could have been made he would have signed without any worry, he always followed the glory. I saw both fighters and I can tell you with the magic water or not, Leonard would have KO'D Pryor, he was hurt a few times by lesser fighters than Leonard, and he would have been put on a stretcher if he hadn't cheated against Arguello.