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    #11
    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

    Haha That’s funny. But I will say this, a well-placed Wilder right could potentially stop anyone in heavyweight history. Ali went down against Sonny Banks, Henry Cooper, Joe Frazier and, if you believe it wasn’t a trip, Chuck Wepner. Wilder hits harder than all those guys, including Frazier. Ali was tough and elusive, but a real heavy hitter lands flush and it could easily be lights out.
    his ko percentage against top 10 ranked opponents is 28 percent. why do you keep thinking hes some devastating puncher when the stats say otherwise. in fact the only top 10 guy he stopped was 40 years old. coincidence?
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      #12
      Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
      And a huge downgrade of Fury’s resume too

      Wilder was always going to be whipped by any of the guys he swerved in his fraudulent run.

      Imagine what Zhang would do to him lol.

      or Klitschko back in the day. It would have been brutal
      or how Wilder lucked out from fighting Povetkin. lol.
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        #13
        Wilder was a good heavyweight at one point. Now he's done.

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          #14
          Originally posted by MaksBox View Post

          or how Wilder lucked out from fighting Povetkin. lol.
          I think that was the hinge factor which would have changed everything. That said, it wasn't Wilder's fault.
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            #15
            Originally posted by MikeyMike100 View Post
            Wilder was a good heavyweight at one point. Now he's done.
            When?

            He hasn't ever beaten a good boxer. And has lost so many rounds v no hopers.

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              #16
              Originally posted by daggum View Post

              his ko percentage against top 10 ranked opponents is 28 percent. why do you keep thinking hes some devastating puncher when the stats say otherwise. in fact the only top 10 guy he stopped was 40 years old. coincidence?
              In 47 fights he’s KOed 42 opponents (98% KO percentage). That’s pretty good, I would say. The higher-ups will always be harder to take down, that’s why they’re elite. Ernie Shavers (92% KO percentage), whom Ali, Norton, Holmes, Lyle, et al, all considered the hardest puncher ever couldn’t knock Ali down. He didn’t land right. If Cooper could floor Ali, I’m certain Shavers could too. So could Wilder. A KO isn’t out of the question.
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                #17
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post

                In 47 fights he’s KOed 42 opponents (98% KO percentage). That’s pretty good, I would say. The higher-ups will always be harder to take down, that’s why they’re elite. Ernie Shavers (92% KO percentage), whom Ali, Norton, Holmes, Lyle, et al, all considered the hardest puncher ever couldn’t knock Ali down. He didn’t land right. If Cooper could floor Ali, I’m certain Shavers could too. So could Wilder. A KO isn’t out of the question.
                what im saying is its all smoke and mirrors and hype and the stats bear that out.

                ko ratio against opponents who were in the top 10(ring) at the time of the fight


                ali-50% 18 out of 36
                lewis-53% 8 out of 15
                fury-60% 3 out of 5
                vitali klit-75% 6 out of 8
                wlad klit-53% 7 out of 13
                joshua-50% 5 out of 10
                tyson-53% 8 out of 15
                wilder-28% 2 out of 7

                he simply does not compare. yes he could knock ali down like you said other mediocre figthers have done that but ngannau knocked down fury, that doenst mean ngannau is the hardest puncher in boxing history, yet wilder fans went of the rails for the last 8 years cause wilder was ko'ing bums.




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                  #18
                  I don’t know but Hearn saying he doesn’t rate Wilder bc of his resume bf this one got a lot of hate again . Resumes tell the story they don’t lie numbers don’t lie as Wilder says .

                  Ortiz remains his best win in his career which was years ago .

                  Let him comeback against Mahkmudov or Joyce in the future . He better learn his lesson and stop being an underweight heavyweight though this isnt 2014 ,either put in the work or retire . For real .

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
                    And a huge downgrade of Fury’s resume too

                    Wilder was always going to be whipped by any of the guys he swerved in his fraudulent run.

                    Imagine what Zhang would do to him lol.

                    or Klitschko back in the day. It would have been brutal
                    Wilder 2-3 years ago was better, so it doesn't reflect on Fury's resume having Wilder a bit old. He is overrated indeed or at least missed the time to prove that he is indeed good.

                    By the same logic, Wallin beating Gassiev makes Usyk's record less good.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by daggum View Post

                      what im saying is its all smoke and mirrors and hype and the stats bear that out.

                      ko ratio against opponents who were in the top 10(ring) at the time of the fight


                      ali-50% 18 out of 36
                      lewis-53% 8 out of 15
                      fury-60% 3 out of 5
                      vitali klit-75% 6 out of 8
                      wlad klit-53% 7 out of 13
                      joshua-50% 5 out of 10
                      tyson-53% 8 out of 15
                      wilder-28% 2 out of 7

                      he simply does not compare. yes he could knock ali down like you said other mediocre figthers have done that but ngannau knocked down fury, that doenst mean ngannau is the hardest puncher in boxing history, yet wilder fans went of the rails for the last 8 years cause wilder was ko'ing bums.




                      You make a good point. However, we’re talking about sheer power here. You can’t KO anyone if you don’t land right. Wilder has exceptional power. It’s evident. Against better opponents, it stands to reason Deontay’s not going to connect as often or as well. Ali probably would’ve eluded him, as he did with Shavers. That doesn’t negate the fact that Shavers possessed crushing power. Same with Wilder. Ali wasn’t an especially hard puncher by heavyweight standards. His KO percentage had everything to do with volume and shot placement. If you give me free rein to punch a heavyweight all I want, I’ll take anyone down. Wilder just needs one. In all fairness, the same could be said about many hard punching heavyweights.

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