Comments Thread For: Romero: I'm Gonna Knock Tank The F---- Out, My D--k Is Longer Than Them T-Rex Arms

[IronDanHamza]

Dude I’m not spinning this as acceptable. That’s utterly ridiculous. Not being mad doesn’t equal acceptable for f-ck sakes.

I’m just passed criticizing the things about it I don’t like and moving on to the parts of the buildup and the actual fight that I think will be entertaining.

I am not asking you or anyone else to purchase it. I’m also not criticizing anyone based on the decision they make.

You need to get it that the old standard of what was ppv acceptable fights in previous eras no longer exists.

It should be obvious at this point that they put fights on ppv that they think will attract paying casual fans.

As diehard fans of the sport, that is what we feel makes the sport it’s best and what makes for great fights.

What if the new age of fans sees it differently ?

Seems like you are.

PPV has always been driven by casual fans, but the heart of that is the best fighters fighting the best, always has been and always will be. That's the heart of why Boxing is the best sport, or was the best sport.

Mismatches like this on PPV where P4P caliber fighters are fighting unranked fighters will kill the sport.

[IronDanHamza]

Dan you put it in quotes because you know it’s a marketing ploy. I don’t judge a fighter based on how his team markets him.

Your making way too much of it. I have criticized Rolly being ranked #1, the validity of this fight, and Tank for fighting a guy this level.

What I’m not mad about is the fact that Floyd has found a way to market him to a group of fans that embrace his skill rather than rail against him for thing or another.

We agree he needs to fight the best opposition. We agree he hasn’t fought any elite opponents. I don’t think his resume is as terrible as some claim. Can it be better? Yes.

You should be mad at Floyd for that.

You're also acting like this will do well on PPV, which it won't.

[The Big Dunn]

Seems like you are.

PPV has always been driven by casual fans, but the heart of that is the best fighters fighting the best, always has been and always will be. That's the heart of why Boxing is the best sport, or was the best sport.

Mismatches like this on PPV where P4P caliber fighters are fighting unranked fighters will kill the sport.

No it doesn’t. I’m just not angry just to be angry.

We don’t disagree. what you and others don’t seem to get is that doesn’t mean it will be that way for ever.

What constitutes a “ppv caliber” matchup in this era appears to be the star power of the draw.

I don’t agree with you it will kill the sport. Paul brothers and retired fighters are generating more ppv sales and fan interest than unification fights among the best in a given division.

The kind of fights you’re talking about need to be put on those cards so fans that tune in see the best the sport has to offer.

Boxing needs to start meeting it’s new fans where they are rather than expecting them to come to the sport. Failure to generate interest among new fans will kill the sport.

[The Big Dunn]

You should be mad at Floyd for that.

You're also acting like this will do well on PPV, which it won't.

No I shouldn’t be. If a certain group of fans don’t want to support what he’s doing, he has every right to find a group that does.

You have no idea what this fight will do and neither do I. I am hopeful it is successful, I am not acting like anything.

You guys think it’s wrong to want the fight to succeed. I don’t. Worse, you’re mad at anyone like me that doesn’t want it to fail.

Being a boxing fan isn’t defined by judging everything new by standards of the past and denouncing everything that doesn’t meet that standard.

We’ve made the same criticisms about this fight. The only difference is I still want it to succeed in spite of it’s negatives.

[GhostofDempsey]

No matter what classless trash comes out of either of their mouths, there is nothing compelling about this fight for me. Hard pass.

[IronDanHamza]

No I shouldn’t be. If a certain group of fans don’t want to support what he’s doing, he has every right to find a group that does.

You have no idea what this fight will do and neither do I. I am hopeful it is successful, I am not acting like anything.

You guys think it’s wrong to want the fight to succeed. I don’t. Worse, you’re mad at anyone like me that doesn’t want it to fail.

Being a boxing fan isn’t defined by judging everything new by standards of the past and denouncing everything that doesn’t meet that standard.

We’ve made the same criticisms about this fight. The only difference is I still want it to succeed in spite of it’s negatives.

As a boxing fan you shouldn't want mismatches on PPV to do well. That's just basic stuff really.

This "new standard" you're talking about is baseless.

You cite Paul brothers as evidence, all that's evidence of is circus acts selling which they always have, and also that the quality of fights boxing puts on as a whole is garbage.

Boxing can't survive on circus acts, and to be honest this joke of a fight isn't far off one. It's probably the worst fight that's ever been on PPV in all honesty, off the top of my head atleast. If not it's certainly up there.

I mean yeah, we don't know if it will sell or not. But the likelihood is the numbers will be terrible. I'm as a hardcore a boxing fan as it get's and I only found out who this Rolley guy was last week.

[The Big Dunn]

As a boxing fan you shouldn't want mismatches on PPV to do well. That's just basic stuff really.

This "new standard" you're talking about is baseless.

You cite Paul brothers as evidence, all that's evidence of is circus acts selling which they always have, and also that the quality of fights boxing puts on as a whole is garbage.

Boxing can't survive on circus acts, and to be honest this joke of a fight isn't far off one. It's probably the worst fight that's ever been on PPV in all honesty, off the top of my head atleast. If not it's certainly up there.

I mean yeah, we don't know if it will sell or not. But the likelihood is the numbers will be terrible. I'm as a hardcore a boxing fan as it get's and I only found out who this Rolley guy was last week.

I got a ton of respect for you but please don’t tell me what I should and shouldn’t want as a boxing fan.

I look at it differently than you. To me it’s evidence that there is a market for those fights more so than there ever had been. As such, I am suggesting the sport use that to its benefit when possible.

Boxing can’t survive if it doesn’t adapt to the new environment. You seem to be missing this point.
No matter how putrid this fight is, To call Tank/Rolly a circus fight is absurd. These are both pros. Not actors or athletes.

We agree this matchup shouldn’t be on ppv. My point is whatever your individual standard for ppv, that is irrelevant because You and I aren’t who this fight is being marketed toward.

We may not find this fight to be ppv worthy entertainment on paper because it isn’t the best fighting the best, but whose to say that standard is what the customers they are marketing this fight toward want?

[IronDanHamza]

I got a ton of respect for you but please don’t tell me what I should and shouldn’t want as a boxing fan.

I look at it differently than you. To me it’s evidence that there is a market for those fights more so than there ever had been. As such, I am suggesting the sport use that to its benefit when possible.

Boxing can’t survive if it doesn’t adapt to the new environment. You seem to be missing this point.
No matter how putrid this fight is, To call Tank/Rolly a circus fight is absurd. These are both pros. Not actors or athletes.

We agree this matchup shouldn’t be on ppv. My point is whatever your individual standard for ppv, that is irrelevant because You and I aren’t who this fight is being marketed toward.

We may not find this fight to be ppv worthy entertainment on paper because it isn’t the best fighting the best, but whose to say that standard is what the customers they are marketing this fight toward want?

So that's really just a round about way to make an excuse for this garbage fight. Let's just call a spade a spade here; The fight is total garbage, can we agree on that or no?

I mean no disrespect, I respect you also. But no boxing fan should accept this fight on PPV, there's no if's or but's on that.

You seem to be creating this "new environment" of boxing fan and PPV standard out of thin air. What exactly are you basing that on?

I said it's not far off a circus fight, when realistically it's not. It's a elite fighter in Tank fighting a guy that I've never heard of, who's not in the Top 10 at the weight class and likely not even top 20 and the only sole reason it's even happening is because the unranked guy is having one or two insulting things to say.

You're grasping at straws to justify it one way or another, that's your prerogative if you want to do that.

The fact is it's a joke of a fight no matter how you slice it.

Let's see if this so called "new environment" you speak of buys the fight. I'll hazard a wild guess that they don't, and the fight doesn't even do 150k buys.

[LeOoze]

Realistically I’d rather not, but I see your point, it’s inevitable especially if a fighter is active.

But Tank’s resume is a joke. How old is he now, 24? He’s been a known name for a good while now. His opposition level is probably the worst in boxing for a fighter his level.

He's about to be 27 in 2 weeks

[The Big Dunn]

So that's really just a round about way to make an excuse for this garbage fight. Let's just call a spade a spade here; The fight is total garbage, can we agree on that or no?

I mean no disrespect, I respect you also. But no boxing fan should accept this fight on PPV, there's no if's or but's on that.

You seem to be creating this "new environment" of boxing fan and PPV standard out of thin air. What exactly are you basing that on?

I said it's not far off a circus fight, when realistically it's not. It's a elite fighter in Tank fighting a guy that I've never heard of, who's not in the Top 10 at the weight class and likely not even top 20 and the only sole reason it's even happening is because the unranked guy is having one or two insulting things to say.

You're grasping at straws to justify it one way or another, that's your prerogative if you want to do that.

The fact is it's a joke of a fight no matter how you slice it.

Let's see if this so called "new environment" you speak of buys the fight. I'll hazard a wild guess that they don't, and the fight doesn't even do 150k buys.

It’s happening because haymon got Rolly ranked #1 by the wba.

I’m not doing that. Pbc is. Ellerbee made it clear a fe weeks ago that Tank would be marketed toward the younger, urban hip hop demographic.

The first sign was the last fight being in Atlanta. The next sign is This fight is being held in a Sunday night, not a night boxing traditionally holds ppv events, because nfl games are in. So that tells me the casual boxing fan is not who they’re going after.

Im not grasping at anything. I am flat out telling you your standard isn’t everyone’s and you need to understand that.

Further, I’m saying that the sport does if it doesn’t try to get new viewers. One way you do that is meet those fans where they are- not where you and I are.

You do that by putting the kinds of fights you want to see on cards with the Paul brothers so those new fans that tune into their fights see the beat the sport had to offer.