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    #81
    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

    The bet? Chicken curry or butter chicken? One thing is clear, you are chicken and your words of elite for Dev are but hyperbole. You can even back you guy with a signature bet which will cost you nothing.
    Lol back to racism I see after taking 4 MASSIVE Ls in a row? What a joke you are. As for Dev, I'm not going to make any bets for several reasons a) he's just 23yo and will be competing against men who are older with much more experience b) Dev has a tendency to get robbed in close fights (probably because he's Indian) c) Dev grabbed Bronze at the World Amateurs after losing to the #1 fighter in his division by SD so has ALREADY proven himself.

    Anyway, I've said my piece so won't be responding to you any further (until you get a few Ws under your belt)

    Goodbye Dr. L hahaha!
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      #82
      Originally posted by Inoue Body Shot View Post

      Epic fail!!! Hahaha

      The way Z said and doubled down with

      READ IT SLOWLY with so much arrogance is astounding.

      Z bet to you that Hrgovic isn't elite or will make the Hall of Fame?? Take the bet??

      L after L man.
      Lmao bro they don't call him Dr. L for nothing!
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        #83
        Originally posted by HisExcellency View Post

        Lmao bro they don't call him Dr. L for nothing!
        Okay, you have sunken even lower and are forced to used sophm@ric names to reply. You'd better watch yourself. I predict Dev will win no more than two fights in the games ( you need 3 wins to claim at bronze or better ) and may even be out in round one or two.

        You clearly lack the sack to back you own boy who you claim is elite. A no cost bet is too much for you risk. That is the funny part.
        Last edited by Dr. Z; 06-15-2024, 05:33 AM.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post



          There is something to the investment and boxing coaches at Uzbek. Russia and Ukraine are busy fighting a bloodbath ... the loss of men and the wounded.....As a result Uzbek cleaned up at the games. What happened to Cuba? Do you want to hear my review of Dev?


          N. Dev was just a guy in the field of 71 KG fighters. There are guys who hit harder and three are guys who are quicker. Dev was well schooled as his father was a boxer and at mid range, and as such he wisely uses his speed and guile to beat the other guy at mid range to the punch. He was sneaky in that regard. His upside was more maxed out than his opponents, but he is not a great pro prospect. You hyped him a bit too much.


          Hey Z...apologies, I saw your DM but completely forgot to reply!

          Anyhow, re Nishant Dev's performance at the Olympics, he did well to beat the Pan American Games finalist in his first bout but was unlucky to draw Verde in the second who he lost to via MD (4-1 split). In fact, the first round was awarded 4-1 in Dev's favour whereas the second and third rounds were awarded 3-2 & 5-0 respectively to Verde. Therefore, Dev unanimously won the first round, Verde unanimously won the third round and the second round (which ultimately decided the contest) was given to Verde by the narrowest of margins.

          I didn't see the fight so can't comment but a lot of people on Twitter (including Mexicans) thought that Verde was lucky to get the victory.

          Did you watch the fight?

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            #85
            Hi***cellency

            Hey Z...apologies, I saw your DM but completely forgot to reply!

            Anyhow, re Nishant Dev's performance at the Olympics, he did well to beat the Pan American Games finalist in his first bout but was unlucky to draw Verde in the second who he lost to via MD (4-1 split). In fact, the first round was awarded 4-1 in Dev's favour whereas the second and third rounds were awarded 3-2 & 5-0 respectively to Verde. Therefore, Dev unanimously won the first round, Verde unanimously won the third round and the second round (which ultimately decided the contest) was given to Verde by the narrowest of margins.

            I didn't see the fight so can't comment but a lot of people on Twitter (including Mexicans) thought that Verde was lucky to get the victory.

            Did you watch the fight?
            Yes. Like I said Dev's lack of physicality which is below average at his weight doomed him. He is sneaky and well schooled though. Quick, but nothing special. His foot speed and footwork is good, but his striking distance is a bit short. That is a problem. His father was a fighter, I did not know that until recently. At any rate at his age 23 he is not likely to get much better and due to his background, I think has nearly filled his potential. Sorry.

            Verde was nothing special and won 4-1.


            Dev did win his first match with a lucky draw vs Jose Rodriguez. What I mean by that is Rodriguez was a weak opponent who qualified for the Olympics in a weak South American division, and sports an amatuer record of 10-11, with 2KO's against .. and 0 KO's for. Dev edged him 3-2 in the games.

            At this point my interest in him which you helped generate, is done.​ He is not getting any lighter. His pro prosepact if he goes there are at 154 or 160,

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              #86
              Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

              Yes. Like I said Dev's lack of physicality which is below average at his weight doomed him. He is sneaky and well schooled though. Quick, but nothing special. His foot speed and footwork is good, but his striking distance is a bit short. That is a problem. His father was a fighter, I did not know that until recently. At any rate at his age 23 he is not likely to get much better and due to his background, I think has nearly filled his potential. Sorry.

              Verde was nothing special and won 4-1.


              Dev did win his first match with a lucky draw vs Jose Rodriguez. What I mean by that is Rodriguez was a weak opponent who qualified for the Olympics in a weak South American division, and sports an amatuer record of 10-11, with 2KO's against .. and 0 KO's for. Dev edged him 3-2 in the games.

              At this point my interest in him which you helped generate, is done.​ He is not getting any lighter. His pro prosepact if he goes there are at 154 or 160,
              I know you're too far up your own arse to notice, but nobody cares about your 'analysis'. You kept going on about how great Hrgovic was and he was battered by Dubois, kept talking down Sheeraz and said he'd lose to Ammo, then when he won you talked down the win as if it was meaningless. You get proven wrong about Indian boxing and start using insults about butter chicken. Sad.

              Based on your previous analysis of fighters, if you claim a fighter has no potential, he's probably a future champ.

              I don't believe you watched the fight by the way. Where did you watch it? How did you score it?
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                #87
                Originally posted by Clegg View Post

                I know you're too far up your own arse to notice, but nobody cares about your 'analysis'. You kept going on about how great Hrgovic was and he was battered by Dubois, kept talking down Sheeraz and said he'd lose to Ammo, then when he won you talked down the win as if it was meaningless. You get proven wrong about Indian boxing and start using insults about butter chicken. Sad.

                Based on your previous analysis of fighters, if you claim a fighter has no potential, he's probably a future champ.

                I don't believe you watched the fight by the way. Where did you watch it? How did you score it?
                Hrgovic who appppartley does not train hard got tired after 4 rounds, and lost. 1 loss does not mean much heavyweight division these days.

                BTW, I wasn't talking to you. I was giving my thoughts to another poster.

                Mind your Panier.
                Last edited by Dr. Z; 08-20-2024, 03:26 PM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                  Hrgovic who appppartley does not train hard got tired after 4 rounds, and lost. 1 loss does not mean much heavyweight division these days.

                  BTW, I wasn't talking to you. I was giving my thoughts to another poster.

                  Mind your Panier.
                  I believe you meant paneer*** but because of your lack of knowledge, inability to read things correctly and attention to detail you have shown your low intelligence level while trying to make a racist and derogatory comment.
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                    Hrgovic who appppartley does not train hard got tired after 4 rounds, and lost. 1 loss does not mean much heavyweight division these days.

                    BTW, I wasn't talking to you. I was giving my thoughts to another poster.

                    Mind your Panier.
                    So you didn't actually see the fight but lied about it. Now more deflection talking about Indian food. I'm not even Indian so another swing and a miss for you there.

                    You should admit that you underrated Sheeraz and overrated Hrgovic. We all make mistakes. But instead you make excuses. Hrgovic lost because he isn't elite, you thought he was because you're a bad judge of boxing ability.
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

                      Yes. Like I said Dev's lack of physicality which is below average at his weight doomed him. He is sneaky and well schooled though. Quick, but nothing special. His foot speed and footwork is good, but his striking distance is a bit short. That is a problem. His father was a fighter, I did not know that until recently. At any rate at his age 23 he is not likely to get much better and due to his background, I think has nearly filled his potential. Sorry.

                      Verde was nothing special and won 4-1.


                      Dev did win his first match with a lucky draw vs Jose Rodriguez. What I mean by that is Rodriguez was a weak opponent who qualified for the Olympics in a weak South American division, and sports an amatuer record of 10-11, with 2KO's against .. and 0 KO's for. Dev edged him 3-2 in the games.

                      At this point my interest in him which you helped generate, is done.​ He is not getting any lighter. His pro prosepact if he goes there are at 154 or 160,
                      Fair enough that's your opinion but I don't see how you can write off Nishant Dev's entire CAREER at the age of 23yo? Bear in mind that he's already a World Amateur Championships Bronze medallist (losing to the eventual Gold medallist via SD) and just lost a close fight to Marco Verde (Olympic Silver medallist) which a lot of people thought he WON. Therefore, he only loses to the best of the best via extremely CLOSE decisions and 5 of his 7 losses to date have been via SD/MD which means that at least one or more judges thought he won the fight.

                      Also, I wouldn't read too much into an amateur boxer's record given that bouts only last 3 rounds. For example, Dev's first opponent at the Olympics was a Pan American Games finalist and 7 of his 11 losses have also come via SD/MD. He also has one walk off which means he didn't even fight.

                      PS: Lmao @ Verde suddenly being 'nothing special' after beating Dev. Apparently, he's the next big thing out of Mexico and the fact that Dev was able to hang with him (and BEAT him at the beginning of their careers) speaks volumes.
                      Last edited by HisExcellency; 08-21-2024, 01:04 PM.

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