All Time Accuracy Category

[The Old LefHook]

The contender for all time accuracy that I put up is Mr. Joe Louis. It is my contention that fighters that were brawlers in the older era defended themselves much better than average defenders today. If you are going to fight that often you had better know how to defend yourself! This makes Joe's accuracy all the more laudable.

[The Old LefHook]

You see many figthters from the old days missing their targets a lot. Even Robinson missed a lot. The guys back then knew how to defend themselves. Look at Turpin, out on his feet against the ropes but still hard to hit. More punches from Robby's last barrage missed than landed. The stoppage was still correct. Those that did land were killers.

RJJ was pretty accurate. But until I am convinced otherwise, I still see Joe Louis as the most accurate puncher I know of. Joe didn't miss much.

[MrTambourineMan]

I clicked on the thread to say the same. Joe Louis is the best puncher I have ever seen in terms of Accuracy.

He also had fight-ending power and put combinations together beautifully. His timing, Judging of Distance were sublime.

[BattlingNelson]

What's your opinion on Dempsey in that cathegory? He sure had some of the best combination punching in HW history. Him and Louis.

[The Old LefHook]

If you are speaking to me, to tell you the truth I don't even know my opinion on Dempsey's accuracy. Wish I had one.

[BattlingNelson]

If you are speaking to me, to tell you the truth I don't even know my opinion on Dempsey's accuracy. Wish I had one.

I call BS. You are saving it. They way you conduct yourself here, I somehow doubt that your quite impressive knowledge stops at Monzon, Robinson and Louis.

[The Old LefHook]

I call BS. You are saving it. They way you conduct yourself here, I somehow doubt that your quite impressive knowledge stops at Monzon, Robinson and Louis.

My so called impressive knowledge already has me retracting statements left and right, old stick. To me it is all a learning process. I am here to learn from you guys. Science is a self correcting adventure. Call ol' LefHook an adventurist, then. I promise to review all the Dempsey I can find and get back to you with a more informed opinion than the one I would be able to give now. Yes, I have watched everything of Dempsey's before, but never with an eye to his combinatorial prowess.

[Scott9945]

I clicked on the thread to say the same. Joe Louis is the best puncher I have ever seen in terms of Accuracy.

He also had fight-ending power and put combinations together beautifully. His timing, Judging of Distance were sublime.

I agree with all the replies picking Joe Louis. Can't think of a better choice.

[The Old LefHook]

Aren't the differences between Louis and Dempsey amazing, laying aside a kinship of accuracy? The fury of Dempsey, the placid control of Louis. What a difference a generation makes. The shows were polar opposites.

Dempsey's chaotic aggression in a ring often managed to turn events chaotic. **** happened when Dempsey fought, some kind of chaos always broke out. The Willard spectacle on fourth of July was an unprecedented bloodbath, where Dempsey left the ring after the first round, and had to be rushed back in time to answer the bell. Then nine actual knockdown in the Firpo fight and Dempsey is punch/shoved from the ring. Then Sharkey turns to complain to the referee about low blows, and Jack coldc*cks him a la Floyd Mayweather with a perfect, short left hook. After that came the long count, another freakish event.

Things like that did not happen in Louis fights. He gave out controlled beatings. His control was one of the scarey things about him. His rushed dismantling of Schmeling was an awesome world event, but not much of a boxing match. Did anything freakish ever happen in a Louis fight, besides he himself being knocked onto the ring apron by Marciano? I don't know. That isn't too freakish anyway. Yeah, they sure put on different shows to attain the same end. Each reflected something about their civilization a generation apart. It seems like two different civilizations sometimes.

[The Old LefHook]

Okay, to answer Nelson. Amazing how Dempsey institutes chaos and remains accurate himself. I believe the way he does this is by staying close. Even on the outside Dempsey stays closer than most. This allows him to keep his punches short. Dempsey is not a big extender on his punches. His arm is still half pinned to his body on some of those powerful left hooks. They do not seem to be the sweeping things of Frazier or Morrison very often. Dempsey keeps them tighter. Tied up, he will punch over a man's arms to get to his ear, like Fullmer does. I think the short range is how Dempsey does it, from the limited footage available. His punches do not have to travel far. On the long count knockdown he had to extend more to catch Tunney, and that was a pretty and awesomely accurate combination he laid on him. Louis could not have done it better.