what fighters look good in loss?

[Scott9945]

I haven't seen that fight, but what difference does it make if it was a "major fight" or not? Is the safety of main-event level fighters less important than the safety of ham-and-eggers?

You're going to stop a fight quicker between two amateurs or prelim fighters. If you have a major fight then you have to consider the higher skill level of the fighters and the consequences of winning/losing. These fighters have trained for months and shouldn't be shortchanged. You also have to consider when millions of people have paid top dollar for a PPV and want their money's worth.

Of course if a fighter is in immediate danger any fight should be stopped. And if you take a few minutes to watch the end of that fight you might conclude that it was premature. But then again I'm one of those who believe situations (time remaining, stakes involved) should affect the referee's decision when to pull the plug. And I understand that I'm in the minority on this.

[SBleeder]

You're going to stop a fight quicker between two amateurs or prelim fighters. If you have a major fight then you have to consider the higher skill level of the fighters and the consequences of winning/losing. These fighters have trained for months and shouldn't be shortchanged. You also have to consider when millions of people have paid top dollar for a PPV and want their money's worth.

Of course if a fighter is in immediate danger any fight should be stopped. And if you take a few minutes to watch the end of that fight you might conclude that it was premature. But then again I'm one of those who believe situations (time remaining, stakes involved) should affect the referee's decision when to pull the plug. And I understand that I'm in the minority on this.

The main event-caliber fighters presumably hit harder and have the capability to do more damage in rapid fashion than a four-round fighter. A guy like Mike Tyson could cause a concussion a lot more rapidly than an low-tier undercard fighter, and I think refs should take that into consideration.

I also don't think the fans' desires should have any bearing on whether or not a fight is stopped. Nor should the stakes of a fight be a consideration. Any great prizefighter is going to have the attitude of "I'll die before I quit".

Just my opinions; nothing personal intended.

[Anthony342]

You're going to stop a fight quicker between two amateurs or prelim fighters. If you have a major fight then you have to consider the higher skill level of the fighters and the consequences of winning/losing. These fighters have trained for months and shouldn't be shortchanged. You also have to consider when millions of people have paid top dollar for a PPV and want their money's worth.

Of course if a fighter is in immediate danger any fight should be stopped. And if you take a few minutes to watch the end of that fight you might conclude that it was premature. But then again I'm one of those who believe situations (time remaining, stakes involved) should affect the referee's decision when to pull the plug. And I understand that I'm in the minority on this.

As am I apparently. I think Ron Borges said it best when he said about Taylor "He earned those extra 2 seconds."

[Scott9945]

The main event-caliber fighters presumably hit harder and have the capability to do more damage in rapid fashion than a four-round fighter. A guy like Mike Tyson could cause a concussion a lot more rapidly than an low-tier undercard fighter, and I think refs should take that into consideration.

I also don't think the fans' desires should have any bearing on whether or not a fight is stopped. Nor should the stakes of a fight be a consideration. Any great prizefighter is going to have the attitude of "I'll die before I quit".

Just my opinions; nothing personal intended.

Oh absolutely, and your points are all valid. I just see a different perspective and don't think stopping a fight should ever be an arbitrary call regardless of circumstances. And I do agree that stopping a fight too soon is bad, but stopping it too late is worse.

If you ever do see the end of Tyson-Ruddock I, I'd like to hear your opinion about it. I saw it just recently and it actually appeared to be a worse stoppage than when I watched it live.

[Bolo Punch]

- Meldrick Taylor vs. Chavez in the first fight
- John Tate vs. Mike Weaver

[violaandme]

Pernell Whitaker Vs Jose Louis Ramerez considering there is no real argument for Ramerez in any of the first 6-7 rounds which Whitaker dominated and even after he broke his hand in round 5 he won well over half the remaining rounds I think he looked good in defeat

Jorge Paez VS Pernell Whitaker I think Paez as maligned as he is as a side show act he was really the only fighter I saw put up a fight against Whitaker at LW JWW or even in his first 2 years at WW I think he deserves a lot of credit for making a fight of it against the greatest fighter of the era Whitaker at his best rarely lost a round and Paez clearly won 2 and a case could be made for 4
He did what a pair of IBHOF fighters (Nelson and Chavez) could not do make Whitaker have to fight and not only that it was one of the only times Sweet pea was clearly the bigger man

[Ray Corso]

Any man who fights to the best of his abilities isn't a loser!!! To not win over a more talented man who fights to his best abilities bares no shame or indignities! In boxing, if you (fans) ever boxed, theres a time when you've reached your peak in learning and conditioning. Once your at this plateau its up to your mind to be willing to give what you have physically & mentally to win. You learn to live with out winning, your not dsatisfied with the loss when your effort was 100% so you still give it your all when you fight again.
Thats how you justify your life in this sport, I judge fighters on their merits and their abilities looking at a fighters won/loss record can be very deceiving.
Ray.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

hopkins performance in the first taylor fight,,

or

tarver in the first jones fight

[gatorDelux]

I will start off with ray leonard against duran he showed tremendous courage.

very good example. he showed that he was a man in that fight even if not the better man.

also duran hagler

marquez's losses to pac

frazier in the thrilla

although dempsey didnt look great against tunney people finaly started to like him cause he lost with class and grace

[gatorDelux]

a fight is a classic like morales barrera trilogy and gatti ward winning only determines who gets a bigger fight/payday afterwards.