Would Of Nino Valdes Stood Any Chance At Beating Rocky Marciano?

[Perfect Plex]

Lets say Valdes gets his chance the Rock. Is there any way he pulls the upset off?

[Joey Giardello]

I think the rock knock vades out

[Wild Blue Yonda]

I doubt it. Valdes was a fairly formidable fighter on his better nights, but he fell over too routinely against the big boys --- which is the primary reason this match remained hypothetical, instead of real. It was rumoured that losing to Archie Moore in May of '55 finally did in the heavy-handed Cuban's chances of a title shot with the incumbent Marciano. That defeat came on the back of a decent run of scalps (Ezzard Charles among them), but failed to erase his image of not being able to get the job done reliably.

After Moore, Valdes' management attempted to right the sinking ship by pitting their man against some high-calibre opposition, hoping he'd come out on top, but several further losses (albeit to top men) resulted, cementing his fall from relevancy. He was rather used-up by the time a rising Liston made short work of him.

It seems likely he'd have come up short again versus Marciano.

[sonnyboyx2]

Marciano would have knocked out Valdes

[Kid McCoy]

I doubt it. Valdes was a fairly formidable fighter on his better nights, but he fell over too routinely against the big boys --- which is the primary reason this match remained hypothetical, instead of real. It was rumoured that losing to Archie Moore in May of '55 finally did in the heavy-handed Cuban's chances of a title shot with the incumbent Marciano. That defeat came on the back of a decent run of scalps (Ezzard Charles among them), but failed to erase his image of not being able to get the job done reliably.

After Moore, Valdes' management attempted to right the sinking ship by pitting their man against some high-calibre opposition, hoping he'd come out on top, but several further losses (albeit to top men) resulted, cementing his fall from relevancy. He was rather used-up by the time a rising Liston made short work of him.

It seems likely he'd have come up short again versus Marciano.

That was a title eliminator and the reason Marciano fought Moore and not Valdes. The next year Valdes lost another eliminator to Bob Baker in a fight that was reportedly so poor that both men were seen to have cost themselves a title shot.

Rocky probably would have won, but upsets can and do happen. Shame it never happened though. It would have been more interesting and competitive than the Don ****ell fight.

[Wild Blue Yonda]

That was a title eliminator and the reason Marciano fought Moore and not Valdes. The next year Valdes lost another eliminator to Bob Baker in a fight that was reportedly so poor that both men were seen to have cost themselves a title shot.

Rocky probably would have won, but upsets can and do happen. Shame it never happened though. It would have been more interesting and competitive than the Don ****ell fight.

Yes, the fight with Moore was. What I meant to convey is that the loss really sent Valdes' stock crashing, because, according to some angles, he was already seen as somewhat fragile at the highest level, & this defeat put to bed any momentum he had developed in his last several outings (which had showcased Valdes at his pretty damn decent best).

That was supposedly the reason Vadles' resume following the defeat to Moore features a slew of quality rivals --- an effort to quickly chase notable results, which, as we know, backfired.

[Great John L]

Marciano would knock him out.

[Wild Blue Yonda]

Marciano would knock him out.

Most likely.

Not a bad HW list, BTW.

[Great John L]

Thank you very much, Wild Blue Yonda, I appreciate that.