1990s Foreman vs 1990s Tyson

[Sam Donald]

I got nothing against Tyson or his chin, just making a point that certain members of this forum claim Frazier as glass chinned but have nothing to back it up. Frazier was tko'd, not counted out by arguably the hardest puncher ever. Tyson was counted out by Douglas. He showed great resolve in taking the punches he did till that point, but Douglas ain't no Foreman.

As far as your prediction of a Mike-Joe fight.....no way its a blow out like the Marvis fight. If Tyson can't get Frazier out in 3 Frazier is going to impose his will and stop Tyson on 10 after dishing out a one sided beating. Tyson has never reacted well to adversity. Nothing makes me think he would do it against one of the toughest fighters ever.

Tyson with rooney in his corner makes a big difference, when he faced a bit of a issue with tucker for the first 3 4 rounds. He went back to his corner and rooney told him to box, use the jab and box; he did just that and im sure he could alter his plan against frazier

[SBleeder]

Tyson with rooney in his corner makes a big difference, when he faced a bit of a issue with tucker for the first 3 4 rounds. He went back to his corner and rooney told him to box, use the jab and box; he did just that and im sure he could alter his plan against frazier

His style shift against Tucker wouldn't have meant squat if Tucker hadn't broken his hand in the fourth round.

On topic, Tyson's stamina would have been sapped by Round 8; that combined with the cumulative effect of Foreman's shots would give George an easy KO/TKO.

[Sam Donald]

His style shift against Tucker wouldn't have meant squat if Tucker hadn't broken his hand in the fourth round.

On topic, Tyson's stamina would have been sapped by Round 8; that combined with the cumulative effect of Foreman's shots would give George an easy KO/TKO.

I disagree. Its a good point about Tuckers hand injury but Tyson was a much better fighter than tucker and still would have beaten him broken hand or not.

I think somebody said Tuckers hand was just injured not broken so i dont know.

Tysons stamina? during his prime he went comfortably 10rounders and 12rounders.. only after 88' when he started having issues

That lung talk is aload of BS what he said in the movie

[SBleeder]

I disagree. Its a good point about Tuckers hand injury but Tyson was a much better fighter than tucker and still would have beaten him broken hand or not.

I think somebody said Tuckers hand was just injured not broken so i dont know.

Tysons stamina? during his prime he went comfortably 10rounders and 12rounders.. only after 88' when he started having issues

That lung talk is aload of BS what he said in the movie

'88 wasn't his prime? Geez, pretty soon his "prime" will consist only of the Spinks fight. He certainly didn't look like a better fighter than Tucker for the first 4 rounds. Without the hand injury, Tucker would have outpointed him and exposed him as the fraud that he was.

He fought Smith and Tucker for 12 rounds and didn't have any knockout power in the late rounds. If he doesn't put Foreman away early, he's not putting him away at all. Tyson only KOd 4 fighters past the 6th round in his career. Foreman, on the other hand, had the power to knock out Moorer in the 10th and Pierre Coetzer in the 8th- and that was just in George's second coming.

[prinzemanspopa]

He didnt want to quit in Manila, Futch stopped the fight, infact recently ESPN sat down with Frazier and watched the fight, they asked him point blank if it was his call would be willing to die to go out for the 15th against Ali and he said yes..

Gee,how very honest of him.because making a comment like that is really going to make him look like bad,isn't it?


His corner made the decision because of his request.

There is a huge difference between absorbing punishment from the light punching,dehydrated Ali and taking virtually every punch in the book from a fit and healthy buster douglas.

Also isnt it obvious when someone predicts a split decision win it means a very close fight?

No,they're just being idiots for the sake of it.

[JAB5239]

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Gee,how very honest of him.because making a comment like that is really going to make him look like bad,isn't it?


His corner made the decision because of his request.

Proof? Of course you don't have any. Its well documented that both Futch and Frazier have said Joe wanted to continue and it was Futch's decision to stop the fight, so stop your lying.

There is a huge difference between absorbing punishment from the light punching,dehydrated Ali and taking virtually every punch in the book from a fit and healthy buster douglas.

Was Ali dehydrated in the same round Tyson got counted out? No. Was he still teeing off and Frazier pressing forward? Yes. Tyson was counted out by a lesser fighter yet you want to give him credit and still deny Frazier. Thats funny!

[prinzemanspopa]

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Its well documented that both Futch and Frazier have said Joe wanted to continue and it was Futch's decision to stop the fight, so stop your lying.

Of course they would say that.They're not going to throw him under the bus and make him out to be a quitter,are they?






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Was Ali dehydrated in the same round Tyson got counted out? No. Was he still teeing off and Frazier pressing forward? Yes. Tyson was counted out by a lesser fighter yet you want to give him credit and still deny Frazier. Thats funny!

I think Ali's fat arse was still lying on the ropes,doing nothing, at around the same time Tyson got taken out.


He was clearly dehydrated.A greater fighter would have been able to have taken Ali out that day,but frazier somehow managed to get his arse kicked anyway.



The buster Douglas that fought Mike Tyson was as great a fheavyweight that has ever existed.

[JAB5239]

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Of course they would say that.They're not going to throw him under the bus and make him out to be a quitter,are they?

So where are your facts? How did you make the dubious assumption that Frazier requested his corner throw in the towel? Or did you basically just lie as usual?

I think Ali's fat arse was still lying on the ropes,doing nothing, at around the same time Tyson got taken out.

Maybe you should watch this fight again.

He was clearly dehydrated.A greater fighter would have been able to have taken Ali out that day,but frazier somehow managed to get his arse kicked anyway.

A lesser fighter than either Ali or Frazier wouldn't have survived that long. See Tyson-Douglas for confirmation.

The buster Douglas that fought Mike Tyson was as great a fheavyweight that has ever existed.

One great night doth not make a great fighter. Its much easier to look great when your opponent crumbles under adversity.

[StarshipTrooper]

So where are your facts? How did you make the dubious assumption that Frazier requested his corner throw in the towel? Or did you basically just lie as usual?

One great night doth not make a great fighter. Its much easier to look great when your opponent crumbles under adversity.[/FONT]

So now the truth comes out! Princessmanz is a Tyson nuthugger and all this time his campaign of slagging off on fighters was all an effort to make Leg-Iron Mike look good by comparison :rofl9:

Poet

[RockyB]

if Tommy Morrison can outbox Foreman
Mike Tyson can too.

dont think Mike would knock him out though