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    Originally posted by travestyny View Post




    Do you think Pacquaio really needed 3 weeks to recover from giving a teaspoon of blood, or do you think 14 days would have been sufficient.

    Wtf are you talking about. They was trying to force Manny to test right before the bell:

    "they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].​"

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      Originally posted by djtmal View Post

      Wtf are you talking about. They was trying to force Manny to test right before the bell:

      "they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].​"
      Not according to Brian Kenny and Manny


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        Originally posted by travestyny View Post

        Not according to Brian Kenny and Manny
        Lol. According to Arum, you know the guy actually making the negotiation,

        their intent was to test Manny all the way up to the fight.

        "they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].​"

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          Originally posted by djtmal View Post

          Lol. According to Arum, you know the guy actually making the negotiation,

          their intent was to test Manny all the way up to the fight.

          "they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].​"
          Nah, not according to him either. He told you what it was right here when he admit that they ducked the 14 day offer

          Top Rank promoter Bob Arum tells jeetwin55.com that pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao will not make any concessions in order to ensure that a mega-buck fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. takes place. He branded numerous internet reports claiming Pacquiao agreed to a 14-day cut-off on the drug testing as “totally false.”

          Arum made it clear that both he and Pacquiao are standing firm on a 24-day cut-off period for the random blood tests and the previously agreed upon 50-50 split on the money. Arum told us “all I’m saying, right now we are holding to our position.”

          http://jeetwin55.com/articles...ce=chatgpt.com

          That's all three on record saying the offer was for 14 days and it was rejected. Give up.

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            Originally posted by travestyny View Post

            It doesn't take much research to find out they did drug testing for the OLYMPICS
            Who cares. They hadn't done s**t with pro boxing just keep it a buck. It was a fledgling organization Mayweather was pushing.

            If Arum was unaware of them, they had no credibility in that arena.


            "They told me they were going to insist on drug testing by this organization called USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency] and it had never been done before," Arum said. "We were thrown for a loop. 'What is USADA? What is this? What is that?' We went back and forth. At the time we almost had it sorted out, they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].

            Thats like Titliest making basketballs for the NBA
            Last edited by djtmal; 07-01-2025, 01:32 PM.

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              Originally posted by travestyny View Post

              Well that's a whole other can of worms and in my opinion is even worse than what I believe.


              I believe Pac would have fought if Arum told him to. Arum clearly wanted to clean up on in-house money and wasn't sure Pac could beat Mayweather so he stalled it as much as possible. Which makes sense for his business. Pacquaio was merely complicit in the scheme.
              Maybe.

              aside from what they think

              I think pac woulda got Floyd

              and when they did fight, I still think a legless Manny got him.

              Pacquiao had a random, chaotic style that would be very hard to time and hold off with single potshots. (And this turned out to be true).

              by the time they fought - Pacquiao wasn’t looking so good in his other fights - had already been iced by Marquez. His legs were gone from wars and ped usage.

              Floyds decline was very gradual. He wasn’t ā€œon the slideā€ he was maybe a a hair off from his prime - sort of like Hopkins.

              by the time they got in the ring, going by how Algeri was landing right hands on Manny - I figured Floyd would have landed right hands counters all night long minus being dropped multiple times.

              but he didn’t. He missed 90 percent of them and the commentating said they landed when they actually hit his gloves or grazed the top of his head. I won’t even argue this one because I watched the fight in slow motion at least 20 times. So this one isn’t up for debate with me

              Pacquiao landed very few shots himself - but he did land a few good wacks. Enough to say if it was a fight he’s the only one who did any damage.

              this isn’t a bout I am going off by memory. At the time I was obsessed with it - watched it many times over.

              in a perfect world, screw the must system. The fight was a draw because nobody did anything.

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                Originally posted by djtmal View Post

                Who cares. They hadn't done s**t with pro boxing just keep it a buck. It was a fledgling organization Mayweather was pushing.

                If Arum was unaware of them, they had no credibility in that arena.


                "They told me they were going to insist on drug testing by this organization called USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency] and it had never been done before," Arum said. "We were thrown for a loop. 'What is USADA? What is this? What is that?' We went back and forth. At the time we almost had it sorted out, they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].

                Thats like Titliest making basketballs for the NBA
                But because of their reputation, he accepted them. So what's your point? He never declined using USADA.

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                  Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                  Nah, not according to him either.
                  There's no refuting a direct quote from him.

                  "They told me they were going to insist on drug testing by this organization called USADA [United States Anti-Doping Agency] and it had never been done before," Arum said. "We were thrown for a loop. 'What is USADA? What is this? What is that?' We went back and forth. At the time we almost had it sorted out, they were telling Manny he could be drug-tested as he was going into the ring. It was all this crazy [expletive].​

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                    Originally posted by travestyny View Post

                    But because of their reputation, he accepted them.
                    Reputation wtf are you talking about.

                    You lying they didn't have a reputation.

                    If it wasn't for Floyd they would be still chasing ambulances somewhere in the midwest

                    Last edited by djtmal; 07-01-2025, 01:42 PM.

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                      Originally posted by them_apples View Post

                      Maybe.

                      aside from what they think

                      I think pac woulda got Floyd

                      and when they did fight, I still think a legless Manny got him.

                      Pacquiao had a random, chaotic style that would be very hard to time and hold off with single potshots. (And this turned out to be true).

                      by the time they fought - Pacquiao wasnāt looking so good in his other fights - had already been iced by Marquez. His legs were gone from wars and ped usage.

                      Floyds decline was very gradual. He wasnāt āon the slideā he was maybe a a hair off from his prime - sort of like Hopkins.

                      by the time they got in the ring, going by how Algeri was landing right hands on Manny - I figured Floyd would have landed right hands counters all night long minus being dropped multiple times.

                      but he didnāt. He missed 90 percent of them and the commentating said they landed when they actually hit his gloves or grazed the top of his head. I wonāt even argue this one because I watched the fight in slow motion at least 20 times. So this one isnāt up for debate with me

                      Pacquiao landed very few shots himself - but he did land a few good wacks. Enough to say if it was a fight heās the only one who did any damage.

                      this isnāt a bout I am going off by memory. At the time I was obsessed with it - watched it many times over.

                      in a perfect world, screw the must system. The fight was a draw because nobody did anything.
                      I didn't think it was hard to score. Floyd showed that Manny doesn't know how to cut off the ring or defend against a check hook. So he jabbed him with a few straight rights until he got to the corner, hit him with a check hook, and turned him. When Pac got too close, he tied him up. Pacquiao didn't have a plan B to push Mayweather out of his comfort zone. Mayweather didn't really open up with anything extra until maybe the 11th I think it was when he began to mix in a few sneaky uppercuts. Pretty pedestrian win for Floyd. It was only exciting when it happened because of the rivalry. The fight itself was dull.

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