Sports and the importance of size debate

[ShoulderRoll]

Go back to the real proving ground of 15 round fights and you’ll see size matter less at the top of the heavyweight heap. Guaranteed.

[Dr. Z]

Go back to the real proving ground of 15 round fights and you’ll see size matter less at the top of the heavyweight heap. Guaranteed.

So the top heavyweights today can't go 15? Those in shape can. Are you admiting that size at least matters at heavyweight? Or are you saying if there were an extra three rounds the division will get smaller? The height and reach advantages won't change. Only the bellies of the few men at the top like Ruiz, and Fury, and the other fat , old, non top ten meatballs the pick on will decline and that is on rare occiasions.

Don't get me wrong I prefer 15 round fights but in reality 15 round fights are roughly 1% of the matches in boxing pre 1985!!! Wake up, the days of men 200 pounds and below are long gone at heavyweight. And I don't see any good at 210 or below who would shine vs modern big men IF there were 15 round heavyweight fights today.

[ShoulderRoll]

So the top heavyweights today can't go 15? Those in shape can. Are you admiting that size at least matters at heavyweight? Or are you saying if there were an extra three rounds the division will get smaller? The height and reach advantages won't change. Only the bellies of the few men at the top like Ruiz, and Fury, and the other fat , old, non top ten meatballs the pick on will decline and that is on rare occiasions.

Don't get me wrong I prefer 15 round fights but in reality 15 round fights are roughly 1% of the matches in boxing pre 1985!!! Wake up, the days of men 200 pounds and below are long gone at heavyweight. And I don't see any good at 210 or below who would shine vs modern big men IF there were 15 round heavyweight fights today.

Size is a factor in a fight. But it’s just one of the factors. We’ve already seen how the big bodybuilder Joshua was ruined by the smaller Andy Ruiz then taken to school twice by the smaller Usyk.

Make 15 rounds be the championship distance once again and I’m positive that we will see even more instances of the wheat being separated from the chaff.

[QueensburyRules]

Size is a factor in a fight. But it’s just one of the factors. We’ve already seen how the big bodybuilder Joshua was ruined by the smaller Andy Ruiz then taken to school twice by the smaller Usyk.

Make 15 rounds be the championship distance once again and I’m positive that we will see even more instances of the wheat being separated from the chaff.

- - Make boxing 15 rounds and watch boxing get banned is it for you?

If Usyk schools AJ any better, he gonna have to quit boxing so he can be Frankenstein in horror movies!
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[ShoulderRoll]

- - Make boxing 15 rounds and watch boxing get banned is it for you?

If Usyk schools AJ any better, he gonna have to quit boxing so he can be Frankenstein in horror movies!
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Fights are judged on a 10-point must system, round by round. Based on clean punching, effective aggression, defense and ring generalship.

Not by visual facial damage at the end of the fight.

[Dr. Z]

Size is a factor in a fight. But it’s just one of the factors. We’ve already seen how the big bodybuilder Joshua was ruined by the smaller Andy Ruiz then taken to school twice by the smaller Usyk.

Make 15 rounds be the championship distance once again and I’m positive that we will see even more instances of the wheat being separated from the chaff.

But Ruiz was heavy when he beat the over rated Joshua and Usyk was 220 pounds. These we not the sub 210 pound me I am talking about! When exactly would 15 rounds make a difference? I'm telling you it rare in the past 100 years of the division! Maybe when Joe Louis or Rocky Marciano needed past 12 round to KO the light heavy weight sized or cruiser weight sized men. Got any examples vs 220 pound men in the later rounds? Like the kinds found in the top ten from 2001-2023? Or do you lack them?

[QueensburyRules]

Fights are judged on a 10-point must system, round by round. Based on clean punching, effective aggression, defense and ring generalship.

Not by visual facial damage at the end of the fight.

- - AJ one punch from either knocking Usyk out, or busting his mug up beyond repair.

When did you start watching boxing?

[Willow The Wisp]

You won't read anymore,I just took your eyes out! lol

Check out the diet thing. Let's call it the Chris santhemum Joe diet.

[JAB5239]

No he didn't Price did not accomplish much as an amateur. He won bonze in the Olympics due to Jaksto injuring himself and have to withdraw ( the same man stooped him before ) and that was his crowing achievement. Now do you agree with the first post of the tread or not?

Your idea of not accomplishing much is pretty skewered than. And previously losing doesn't mean another automatic loss. That kind of reasoning is convoluted to say the least.

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No, i do not agree. These supersized heavyweights do not possess the same skills or endurance as past era's. There is always an exception, but as a whole, most of these big boys just arent very good.

[JAB5239]

But Ruiz was heavy when he beat the over rated Joshua and Usyk was 220 pounds. These we not the sub 210 pound me I am talking about! When exactly would 15 rounds make a difference? I'm telling you it rare in the past 100 years of the division! Maybe when Joe Louis or Rocky Marciano needed past 12 round to KO the light heavy weight sized or cruiser weight sized men. Got any examples vs 220 pound men in the later rounds? Like the kinds found in the top ten from 2001-2023? Or do you lack them?

You're forgetting the Louis' and Marciano's would be privy to the same nutrition and PED's if they fought today. If you want to put the giants of today back in time the probably wouldn't be as big. You keep trying to cross era's without looking at the entire picture.