Sports and the importance of size debate

[QueensburyRules]

- - Radical movements arise when any state is in disrepair with people suffering.

Current Prime Minister of Italy has definite facist leanings, but was elected on the promise of solving that disrepair, the most urgent being mass illegal migration from Africa no different than that from Mexico to the US. In the US case, it's part of the Mex Drug Cartel's business model, the largest human smuggling network in North American history drawfing the African slave trade finally banned during the 1800s after more than 200 years.

Great for Halloween to scare the bejesus out of young trick and treaters...
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[JAB5239]

Duck the questions as you usually do. It tells the readers everything.

No, it's just that debating with you is like ****ing your head against a wall. It gives you something to do, but it doesn't make you any smarter. I can't be bothered to argue with ANYONE who trys to use the argument Joe Louis is overrated because he didn't fight any eastern europeans. I mean. Seriously? You have the nerve to rate Vits a top 10 all time heavyweight even though his resume doesn't show him to be. Your logic is twisted and convoluted.

[Zaroku]

Chris Byrd is no bigger than Joe Choyinski and not half as scientific, yet Byrd earned a stoppage TKO over modern sized Vitali Klitschko.

I love you… no ****

your posts are solid

I like guys who throw caution to the wind and believe in them selves

[Slugfester]

Dude, look.

Most people stopped growing in 1st world countries 50 years ago, so no, all these athletes aren't just bigger & stronger, they're juiced to the gills

Guys who would've been too big & gassed out because of their size, now have more endurance

Guys who would've been 205 are now 230.

Arab, your is the best answer I have seen. Short and sweet

[Slugfester]

You must not be watching all sports. NFL and NBA players are smaller than the players that played in the 90’s and 2000’s. In the NFL now since Russell Wilson we have more QB’s shorter than 6’2. NFL game got more spreaded and the players have to be quicker so some positions are lighter than they was in the past it’s not unusual to find a 220 lb LineBacker that’s only 5’11 and a 5’9 180 lb Wide Receiver.

In the NBA since the game is less physical there are less 7 ft players in the game and the average nba players height shrunk by 2 inches this 2020 decade.

Wilder at 214 lb even though he is 6’7 shows past hw could probably still defeat bigger heavyweights look at 6’2 Uysk as well.

size matters in sports but is overrated

Good post, if it is true. Someone else on here seems to make up whatever comes to him.

[Slugfester]

- - Yet another dead end by you, ie

• Carnera joined the Italian anti-******* partisans and was wounded by the ****s near Cremona, Italy, in 1943

Not state military services, a local guerilla group around an important crossroads town dating from ancient Roman times in Northern Italy.
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His wife looks pretty tall too. Do you know anything about the fate of his kids?

[QueensburyRules]

His wife looks pretty tall too. Do you know anything about the fate of his kids?

- - She probably in high heels, but yeah tall she was.

Don't know about the kids, but given Primo passed age 60, his wife whom I think is likely Italian had that option to cash out of America to return to Italy. Kids would've been grown and want to stay in America, my hypothetical.

[Dr. Z]

No, it's just that debating with you is like ****ing your head against a wall. It gives you something to do, but it doesn't make you any smarter. I can't be bothered to argue with ANYONE who trys to use the argument Joe Louis is overrated because he didn't fight any eastern europeans. I mean. Seriously? You have the nerve to rate Vits a top 10 all time heavyweight even though his resume doesn't show him to be. Your logic is twisted and convoluted.

Like I said YOU are opting out of it, and obvisouly I gave you something to do. Your logic is flawed and you won't even compare past heavies to modern ones like I'm asking for it. You do not know how to rate a resume. List the 20 heavyweights who had better resumes ( presumably you have Vitali at 21so while you are at it list up to 30 ) .I want to pick apart your list with data, independent raking information and expose your lack of common sense With ring records, cross existing raked fighters of different eras, and factoring in film. We'll see how has " flawed reasoning ." Are you game or chicken little?

This is a history forum. Louis gave just 2 back men title shots of his 26 defenses. One, who was a light heavyweight who couldn't see, the other looked better on the surviving film, and knocked him down twice but was robbed by 21 of 30 men at ringside. Yes, anyone with a brain knows American white guys and Western Europeans ) have not produced much since the Eastern Europeans entered the game. Fury is the exception going back 50 years! That is a different conversation as to why.

But getting back to the rankings. List your top 30.

[Ivich]

Like I said YOU are opting out of it, and obvisouly I gave you something to do. Your logic is flawed and you won't even compare past heavies to modern ones like I asking for it. You do not know how to rate a resume. List the 20 heavyweights who had better resumes ( presumably you have Vitali at 21 ) .I want to laugh and pick apart your list with data, independet raking information and expose your lack of common seses!

"He obvisouly lacks independet raking seses?"

And you want to laugh and pick apart his posts?

Oh My God! The Irony! lol

[Ivich]

- - When he visited Rome before the war, do as Romans do is the ancient motto dating back more than a thousand years.

Doesn't change the fact that WW 2 broke out, Primo fought against Mussolini.

During , Carnera returned to . Though a Blackshirt during the war, he was exempted from actual because of his health—Carnera had one kidney removed in 1938, his kidney disease thought to be related to his . He did, however, serve as a reluctant tool for the *******s. He also continued to fight in exhibition bouts and made a few films in Italy to earn much-needed cash.
Encyclopaedia Brittanica.


In 1941, Carnera was hand-picked by Mussolini to take part in a propaganda film in North Africa. In order "to prove the inferiority of Negro race" a boxing match was set up between Carnera and a 6 foot 3 inch Zulu POW by the name of Kay Masaki.


This chapter analyses the propagandistic construction of the boxer Primo Carnera as a ******* hero during the 1930s. It draws on studies of propagandistic nation building and on the centrality of sport and sports films to political communication, especially in the cases of dictatorships. Applying social semiotic multimodality, the study textually and visually investigates documentaries and newsreels about Carnera found in the archive of Istituto Luce, the Italian film institute that under fascism spread Mussolini’s propaganda. The results show that any event of Carnera’s life served the ******* purpose, from fighting in London to training in the USA, from being surrounded by an adoring crowd in Italy to attending kids’ boxing matches in Miami. Textually, the grandiloquent language of the regime extolled Carnera’s international fame and devotion to ******* values; visually, the propaganda highlighted Carnera’s strength and Italianness. Importantly, when Carnera spoke directly to the camera, he replicated Mussolini’s verbal and non-verbal language. These items were shot before the racial laws, when the regime still hoped to enter the international forum of Western democracies. The internationally renowned boxer was thus meant as a sort of passport for fascism, able to improve the uneven relationships of the dictatorship with other nations.

Primo ("Old Satchelfoot") Carnera has been reported wounded in action. He has been reported shot for treason by the *******s. But last week the former world's heavyweight champion was reported gloriously alive, the victim of the most ignominious defeat in his ponderous career.

Allied troops who escaped from Italian prison camps told how Carnera had been selected as the hero of a ******* propaganda movie illustrating the physical superiority of Italians over African Negroes. For this purpose, the propagandists chose an impressive opponent for Carnera: a burly, six-foot-three Zulu prisoner from the Army of South Africa, Kay Masaki. He had never boxed before. He was fed nothing for three days, then placed in the ring with Carnera. The cameras started grinding.

With one blow, Camera sent Masaki crashing to the floor. The big Negro stayed there a while. Then he struggled to his feet, dazedly shook his head and, advancing on Carnera, delivered a fearful haymaker under the Italian's jaw. Carnera fell in a heap. The cameras ceased grinding.



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