Pryor's victory over Arguello tainted?

[Dynamite Kid]

He looked like crap against Andrew Ganigan and James Busceme that very same year he fought Pryor,Atleast Watt and Mancini were top fighters,neither Ganigan or Busceme were



Oh,did he have any another noteworthy victories? do you mean his victory over the 34 year old Cervantes?

I think Arguelllo was starting to slow down to, i think his peak was around the Limon, Chacon, Escalera rematch,

[Eric Holder]

Another one was the second fight with Alexis Arguello and Arron Pryor, when Pryor asked me to train him. He was afraid going into the rematch with Arguello because Panama Lewis had been arrested and put in jail at the time, and he was the guy who trained him for the first fight, and even though he never admitted it in so many words, he told me that they were basically getting by with some kind of things that were not legal. So I said, “Well, I will show you how to beat Alexis, but we will beat him by using technique and then you won’t be hit by all those big punches. You know, you’re not going to come to me at the end of the round and where I’ll have something to give you in the drink. We’re going beat him by using different types of techniques.” In two and a half weeks of training, I was able to get him to the fight where it didn’t get that much notice, but he came in totally different with a haircut and a nice white outfit instead of that regular stuff. So I spent a lot of time with him, not just training, but also mentally and psychologically because I knew him well from the amateurs. I was right here in Michigan, so I used to catch him around a lot. So he knew that I knew his style, and he could box pretty good even though he was only five foot six. That was one of proudest moments I had, too, and I thought he fought a great fight without having to resort to any other things just by using his technique and boxing skills.




pretty intresting quote from this Manny Steward interview

[them_apples]

what was Aaron Pryors reach

[Obama]

lol at grown men thinking you can turn into superman by drinking ******* water.....the victory is tainted the resto thing happened less than a year later, i still think pryor wouldve won......pryor is very overatted by some because of this fight tho......he got hit so much by arguello, imagine a prime 140 rippin him up....

Well, he did basically get on his knees and offered to suck Sugar Ray Leonard off to fight him. Leonard wanted no part of the man. He also beat Hearns in the amateurs and couldn't get Hearns interested in trying to avenge the loss in the pros.

But, I do agree the man's resume is pretty weak. He really just should have fought in another weight division. Pryor vs Duran would have been a hell of a war.

[Thread Stealer]

Well, he did basically get on his knees and offered to suck Sugar Ray Leonard off to fight him. Leonard wanted no part of the man. He also beat Hearns in the amateurs and couldn't get Hearns interested in trying to avenge the loss in the pros.

But, I do agree the man's resume is pretty weak. He really just should have fought in another weight division. Pryor vs Duran would have been a hell of a war.

Pryor wasn't happy with the money offered from Leonard (half a mil).

He could've fought Duran at 150, but he had managerial problems. By the time it was cleared up, the offer to fight Duran was off the table.

A Hearns-Pryor fight as pros at 147 would end in ugly fashion for Pryor IMO.

[StarshipTrooper]

Henry Tillman beat Tyson twice in the amatuers so it's clear Mike wanted no part of him in the pros

Poet

[BattlingNelson]

From a 1986 interview with Peter Heller:

"Somebody gave him something, because if I was tired, he would have been tired too. Pryor didn't win the fight. The drugs made him win. Then I found out the Pryor people paid not to go to the exam that has to be done for any world championship fight. His exam never took place. They did mine, because I did it in front of people, before and after [the fight]. They never did it. They paid. The person that got the money told me."

That statement is worthless. It's hear-say. Why wouldn't the guy who took the bribe come forward and tell his story? Untill he does Peter Heller's words counts for nothing and he should have kept his mouth shut.

[TheGreatA]

That statement is worthless. It's hear-say. Why wouldn't the guy who took the bribe come forward and tell his story? Untill he does Peter Heller's words counts for nothing and he should have kept his mouth shut.

You must have gotten it wrong. Those were Alexis Arguello's words in an interview with Peter Heller. The way I worded it probably made it seem like it was Heller saying that.

It was during a very troubled time for Arguello though so I would take it with a grain of salt.

[BattlingNelson]

You must have gotten it wrong. Those were Alexis Arguello's words in an interview with Peter Heller. The way I worded it probably made it seem like it was Heller saying that.

It was during a very troubled time for Arguello though so I would take it with a grain of salt.

I got it wrong. Was busy as hell at work and took a short break reading this thread..... Not good enough though.

[Obama]

Henry Tillman beat Tyson twice in the amatuers so it's clear Mike wanted no part of him in the pros

Poet

Case by case basis. Hearns simply was not interested, Pryor however was.