Rocky Marciano vs Chris Byrd

[res]

Hahaha, I'd definately buy tickets to this.


What do you think?

[JAB5239]

Hahaha, I'd definately buy tickets to this.


What do you think?

If Rocky caught up to Walcott, who was a much better puncher and slicker in my opinion, he'd catch up to Byrd. Marciano in 8.

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If Rocky caught up to Walcott, who was a much better puncher and slicker in my opinion, he'd catch up to Byrd. Marciano in 8.

Definately a much better puncher, but that may be the very reason he wasn't as slick, he didn't need to be. Because Byrd didn't have a punch, slickness was the only ring coping mechanism he ever had.

It would also be a bit harder for Rocky to control the larger Byrd on the inside (who has wrestled guys like David Tua on the inside).

KO in 8 is still a possibility though.

[Thunder Lips]

When Byrd got pressured like the Golota and Ike fights he quit throwing and laid on the ropes which would be a disaster against Marciano who wouldnt stop bombing until he went down. He simply doesn't bring anything to the table that LaStarza didn't except a few extra pounds that still didn't give him any snap on his punch or any physical power of note. LaStarza at least had a good uppercut which still couldn't keep Rocky off.

Tua had Byrd on the ropes plenty of times in their fight but he didn't do anything cause he shelled up as soon as that Southpaw arm jab got flicked at him, he was also gassed by Round 3 and got horrifically outworked. Terrible match up, you need real punching power to keep Marciano off and that still sometimes wasn't enough.

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When Byrd got pressured like the Golota and Ike fights he quit throwing and laid on the ropes which would be a disaster against Marciano who wouldnt stop bombing until he went down. He simply doesn't bring anything to the table that LaStarza didn't except a few extra pounds that still didn't give him any snap on his punch or any physical power of note. LaStarza at least had a good uppercut which still couldn't keep Rocky off.

Andrew Golota and Ike Ibeabuchi are much bigger guys man (outweighing Marciano by an average of 50 pounds and much taller), different definition of pressure.


Actually Byrd often stayed on the ropes intentionally because he was rather comfortable being defensive from the ropes, it was part of his style. Yet if he needed to get off the ropes, it is hard to imagine Marciano keeping Byrd there, Tua tried and was spun around countless times. This is where Byrd's size advantage comes in, he is used to muscling around with guys much bigger than Marciano on the inside. I also don't see Marciano landing a single shot with the power that an Ibeabuchi punch has and ending the fight . I think Rocky would be in for a long night with a possible KO at the end of it.

[Thunder Lips]

-Golota and Ike cornered Byrd and threw lots of short punches that kept him busy on the ropes, same definition of pressure. They are the highest workrate fighters he faced and they had a great deal of success because of this. Now Wlad was a guy who used his size advantage against Byrd, picking him apart with sharp jabs and right hands from the outside in both fights.

-Tua's lack of meaningful activity is what let Byrd have his way on the ropes and in the clinch, especially in the late rounds where he was more vulnerable and not moving as much.




-Ibeauchi didn't just land a single shot; he was tagging Byrd frequently on the ropes with looping shots because you can only dodge so many punches without effectively countering back. Byrd was never a big clincher anyway, even against Tua. He did it but he mostly liked to smother with a high guard when things got to close for him and look for wiggle room.

I would bet on a late KO from Marciano after losing the initial rounds anyway. I really don't see what Byrd could do that LaStarza couldn't; LaStarza was slick off the ropes, he was also turning Rocky and clinching effectively. It just wasn't enough as the fight worn on.



LaStarza/Marciano II

[Knighte]

Hahaha, I'd definately buy tickets to this.


What do you think?

Crisp Turd would have little chance of defeating Marciano.

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-Golota and Ike cornered Byrd and threw lots of short punches that kept him busy on the ropes, same definition of pressure. They are the highest workrate fighters he faced and they had a great deal of success because of this. Now Wlad was a guy who used his size advantage against Byrd, picking him apart with sharp jabs and right hands from the outside in both fights.

Yeah, I didn't mean "definition" literally, I meant "level of pressure". They were much bigger guys and able to pressure more effectively because of their size.

-Ibeauchi didn't just land a single shot; he was tagging Byrd frequently on the ropes with looping shots because you can only dodge so many punches without effectively countering back. Byrd was never a big clincher anyway, even against Tua. He did it but he mostly liked to smother with a high guard when things got to close for him and look for wiggle room

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Well it was one shot from Ibeabuchi that really hurt Byrd, and took him out of the fight.

Byrd wasn't a major clincher, but as you say, he did it when he had to, and if he had to with Rocky he would. A guy who could wrestle on the inside with Tua would be far better at controlling Rocky inside than la Starza ever could be. Remember, Rocky's first match with La Starza was rather close. However, counterbalancing this fact would be Rocky's tremendous work rate.

Rocky takes this 2 out of three times, but I think it's atleast possible for Byrd to pull out one match (only the first one lol) where he ofcourse dosen't do any real damage to Rocky.

I don't know, I just thought it would be a really fun match up to watch

[Terry A]

I'd root for the Rock

When I first saw the title of this proposed match up, I thought "this is a tough fight, style wise, for the Rock." Nothing against Chris Byrd personally, but he is probably my worst heavyweight of the past I don't know how many years. Here's why... any time he 'fought", his eyes were open the size of two soft balls and he constantly made funny faces with his mouth. Pitter-pat, slappity-slap. All fight long....But, he was very efffective in most of his fights. Gotta give the former champ his credit and due.

We all know Rocky had problems with movement, and Byrd would be on his motorcycle for however long the fight lasted. But, I can see Byrd backing up on the ropes as is his custom and trying to outslick Marciano from there. And I can see Marciano catching him enough times on his arms, shoulders and body to significantly slow Byrd down.

My heart says Rocky will KO him late. My head says that Byrd will last the distance and the judges will pick which style they like best....one who pitter-pats and lands slaps by the bunches or somebody who swings for the fences all night looking for the big shot.

If I had to bet, first I would bet small and 2nd, I'd take Marciano. And I would watch the fight with my fingers crossed.

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