Top 10 Heavies from best to worst

[JAB5239]

Rahman would almost always beat Louis but the discussion is greatest /best champs in era perspective. Rahman being ten is silly anyway I can list dozens before that spot. A better question is how is Bowe number two on your list?????????? Realism? come on man.....lmao


The scary thing is your list is just as distorted as some of the better known list ive seen ,but they are sheep really...cant look outside the box but then you have Foreman over Wlad? What?

How would Rahman almost always beat Louis? Joe did every single thing better in the ring.

[juggernaut666]

How would Rahman almost always beat Louis? Joe did every single thing better in the ring.

Well you have to add some anomalies to this....size/eras and actually fighting and how fights were fought....how good was Louis?He was technically good offensively...was he defensively? I say no....you also have to add other things ...chin/weight pressure ...meaning how would Louis actually handle a 6'2/ 6'3 230/250 pound guy who went up against much broader spectrum fighters of HIS era......Louis was technically gifted but overall put the package together how does he rank with a modern big Hw is another question. I would think Rahman who was a Tyson sparring partner knocked Lewis out,even he was clowning and really wasn't half bad considering I find it hard you or anyone would put a guy like Gallento or conn over someone like that.


you add the fighters opponents/eras and overall danger accountability...I go with a 6'3 240 pound ,efficient Rahamn over the reletivl;ey easy to hit Louis by all accounts....whos better? IDk but I wouldn't want to be slow shuffling and easy counter right handed against a Rahamn. i'll take Louis on over him in hopes of winning.This doesnr discredit Louis...how good could he have been? im just comparing the both fighters as is.

[Deontaytheking]

Rahman would almost always beat Louis but the discussion is greatest /best champs in era perspective. Rahman being ten is silly anyway I can list dozens before that spot. A better question is how is Bowe number two on your list?????????? Realism? come on man.....lmao


The scary thing is your list is just as distorted as some of the better known list ive seen ,but they are sheep really...cant look outside the box but then you have Foreman over Wlad? What?

Probably like Ross Puritty and Brewster.

[JAB5239]

Well you have to add some anomalies to this....size/eras and actually fighting and how fights were fought....how good was Louis?He was technically good offensively...was he defensively? I say no....you also have to add other things ...chin/weight pressure ...meaning how would Louis actually handle a 6'2/ 6'3 230/250 pound guy who went up against much broader spectrum fighters of HIS era......Louis was technically gifted but overall put the package together how does he rank with a modern big Hw is another question. I would think Rahman who was a Tyson sparring partner knocked Lewis out,even he was clowning and really wasn't half bad considering I find it hard you or anyone would put a guy like Gallento or conn over someone like that.


you add the fighters opponents/eras and overall danger accountability...I go with a 6'3 240 pound ,efficient Rahamn over the reletivl;ey easy to hit Louis by all accounts....whos better? IDk but I wouldn't want to be slow shuffling and easy counter right handed against a Rahamn. i'll take Louis on over him in hopes of winning.This doesnr discredit Louis...how good could he have been? im just comparing the both fighters as is.

I don't put Conn or Galento in the same category as Rahman. Thing is though, Louis didn't gave problems with big slow fighters. He could be dropped, but every single time besides the first Schmeling fight and Marciano he came back to destroy his opponents. I disagree he wasn't very good defensively also. He is far better than anyone Rahman fought in that department.

[juggernaut666]

I don't put Conn or Galento in the same category as Rahman. Thing is though, Louis didn't gave problems with big slow fighters. He could be dropped, but every single time besides the first Schmeling fight and Marciano he came back to destroy his opponents. I disagree he wasn't very good defensively also. He is far better than anyone Rahman fought in that department.

Louis hands down style/waist side would get him flattened..that style with little gloves would never work today even if he had quick feet. He would have to revamp his style entirely.The fight mechanics he had wouldn't cut it with bigger more refined boxer/punchers. I could almost guarantee Butter Bean would easily clobber Gallento and yet just about everyone in modern boxing laughs at Bean but on the reverse side praises the 5'9 Gallento who was a terrible boxer with half of Beans power half his size and was outweighed himself by over 70 pounds who had just a lunging left hook that's about it. And I use him considering he was the most feared puncher of that era besides Louis.

You cannot compare different era champs to good modern contenders it almost never works,particularly in an age that 190 pounders was the norm. Billy Conn was a major threat than ,how hard would it be for Rahman to k.o that guy? Lets be real here every era where they were once champs would not be champs in others. It took years to finally someone sit back and look at video footage on Louis and say hey look all you have to do is counter with an over hand right after a lazy jab.....and they were correct. What Louis had on his side is boxing did not catch up until the video studying began to take off which was later...He has major holes in his whole package and that can be seen with the extensive footage of now,boxers THEN simply fought differently and more or less stood in front more with less movement.It wasn't as common then where you could study your opponent and really they relied on news papers to do that.

[GodOfBoxing]

I'm not doing a list. Having the "appreciation" that I do for the Sport and especially for Hvywt div. history..but....few comments A) personally I think Holyfield would top Joe Louis in one-up. But..."rating" them comprehensively....better with criteria. And, "Socially" the world a much different zone in a Joe Louis ERA! B) probably Ali deserves No.1 a.t. and I WILL bet that most often on experts lists it's him! C) Not saying he is in or out of Top 8 a.t. but....Robbie Fitzsimmons "amazing" man and athlete [notice: Jeffries II he "ripped" Jeffries real good!] D) GEORGE FOREMAN >whom< I "was" campaigning to enter the "2016..." when he was champion. I'll say this: World never seen his like til' then, or since! [If you lived thru that time line you could know about what I am saying]
Jess Willard OR Primo Carnera OR Marvin Hart "worst" champions (though, hard to better Primo's "act" of dieing on the anniversary date of him BIG WIN Vs Jack Sharkey!) [I'd imagine Tim Witherspoon 2 1/2X the "talent" of any Jess Willard at least!]

[GodOfBoxing]

What do you all think of Tyrell.
I thought he was a great boxer.

I was his fan!

[Mr.MojoRisin']

1.Ali
2.Louis
3.Foreman
4.Lewis
5.Holyfield
6.Charles
7.Liston
8.Tyson
9.Marciano
10.Dempsey

4-10 can be argued for any order those aren't set in stone.

I chose these fighters based upon quality of opposition, strengths/weaknesses, and skill set. The size and weight of each played little role in choosing them.

[Panamaniac]

Flip-floppin'

In the political arena, I'd be referred to as a "flip-flopper. So be it, as I've posted on this thread at least 3 times before with what I'm sure are different from my rankings today:

1. Louis
2. Ali
3. Holmes
4. Tyson
5. Marciano
6. Foreman
7. Johnson
8. Dempsey
9. Liston
10. Frazier

[Kiwi Nick]

Ali; no.1 with a bullet, no question.
After that, probably George.
He was so powerful and none of the other heavyweights could get away from him when he was young and quick.
Brilliant fighters and champions were utterly humiliated by George. Frazier, a true champion, just belted six ways from Sunday, look what he did to a great fighter like Norton.
Marciano would have been killed by a young Foreman.
Jack Johnson and Joe Louis and Sam Langford might have rode out the fight to the middle rounds but the sheer power of Foreman would have caught up with the old style fighters who lacked the modern movement and would have seen them suffer the same fate as so many others, KO'd by the monster.
Styles make fights.