When is the best time to run

[Spartacus Sully]

*The thread starter was asking when is the best time to run, in other words, when does the body benefit the most from working out, it's surely not during the catabolic state*[/SIZE]

agreed im just saying that because its the first 8 hours since you woke up dosnt mean your in an anabolic state as well just because its the last 8 hours of the day it dosnt mean your in a catabolic state.

[Max Cady]

Best time to run is across Sam Bowden's backyard afta butcherin' his private investigator and housemaid

[NYU Alum.]

agreed im just saying that because its the first 8 hours since you woke up dosnt mean your in an anabolic state as well just because its the last 8 hours of the day it dosnt mean your in a catabolic state.

Oh, agreed, it's just giving the thread starter an idea. But, it's a fact that a person has entered the anabolic state once they go to sleep(for however long that maybe) and when they wake up and several hours thereafter.

[CymruAmByth]

okay nice stuff, how hard should you run if you're just starting out

I just started about 2 months ago and i've been running about 2 miles a day. I ran once in the morning before work a week ago and although it was very VERY hard work i felt great and full of energy for the rest of the day.

[Spartacus Sully]

Oh, agreed, it's just giving the thread starter an idea. But, it's a fact that a person has entered the anabolic state once they go to sleep(for however long that maybe) and when they wake up and several hours thereafter.

not really when you wake up your usually in a catabolic state or about to enter into one due to lack of amino acids due to lack of the bodys ability to store proteins any where other then what you just ate before you went to bed which is used up by the time your about to wake up

It is also important to remember that there are specific times when the body is most in need of quality nutrition. When you wake up in the morning, the body has gone 8+ hours without being fueled. At this point it has likely entered a catabolic state (breaking down tissue to use for energy). It is important to immediately eat a quality meal upon waking to re-enter an anabolic state as soon as possible.

As for waking up, immediately eat protein, whether its whey or hard boiled eggs, some complex carbs and some water.

I think this may have been a typo, but when you wake up after a 8-10 hour fast, your body is in a catabolic state. Not anabolic. This means that your body will spare your fat and attack your muscles for energy. Very simply put, if you consume a fast digesting carbohydrate at this point the energy will go straight to your fat cells, not your muscles. This is because your metabolism has ground down to a very slow speed.

REM sleep puts you in a catabolic state. Its not just that you have had no protein/calories/nutrients over the past 8 hours. People dont get it i guess.

the above thread is great i reccomend a read or atleast check out the laser talon shark bear on page 2

[NYU Alum.]

not really when you wake up your usually in a catabolic state or about to enter into one due to lack of amino acids due to lack of the bodys ability to store proteins any where other then what you just ate before you went to bed which is used up by the time your about to wake up








the above thread is great i reccomend a read or atleast check out the laser talon shark bear on page 2

No, you're not! You're twisting this ****, lmao. That's like sayin' the color white is not white it's black, lmao.

You're getting your info from bodybuilding. What they are saying is true, but your understanding of it is incorrect, but, the fact is, when you go to sleep(resting phase) that's the anabolic state, when you wake up, that's anabolic state and to keep it up, of course we have to eat. That's all there is to it.

When bodybuilders talk about catabolic/anabolic phase it's in regards to eating habits and working out.

Have you heard of circadian rhythms ?

[Spartacus Sully]

No, you're not! You're twisting this ****, lmao. That's like sayin' the color white is not white it's black, lmao.

You're getting your info from bodybuilding. What they are saying is true, but your understanding of it is incorrect, but, the fact is, when you go to sleep(resting phase) that's the anabolic state, when you wake up, that's anabolic state. That's all there is to it.

so your saying that magically your body acquires amino acids (protein) during your sleep that is not from your muscles or what you ate? as well as continues to acquire these magic ammino acids well into the day with out the need to ever replenish the source. i mean building muscles and even repairing muscles require more then fats and carbs to build up and if you dont have those ammino acids (protien) the body will start to take away from healthy muscle inorder to repair the damaged muscle.

im not saying white is black im saying white is white the combination of all light but what happens when you dont have any more light....you have black.

sure your in an anabolic state but thats only untill you run out of the nutrients the anabolic state is using. just like when your awake if your not eating proper food and only sticking to fats and simple carbs your body will be in a catabolic state due to a lack of proteins to repair damaged muscle.

[NYU Alum.]

so your saying that magically your body acquires amino acids (protein) during your sleep that is not from your muscles or what you ate? as well as continues to acquire these magic ammino acids well into the day with out the need to ever replenish the source. i mean building muscles and even repairing muscles require more then fats and carbs to build up and if you dont have those ammino acids (protien) the body will start to take away from healthy muscle inorder to repair the damaged muscle.

im not saying white is black im saying white is white the combination of all light but what happens when you dont have any more light....you have black.

sure you in an anabolic state but thats only untill you run out of nutrients the anabolic state is using.

Listen man, I'm right and you're wrong and I bet your @ss a doctor will tell you the same exact ****, only he/she will be able to explain it to you better.

[Spartacus Sully]

Listen man, I'm right and you're wrong and I bet your @ss a doctor will tell you the same exact ****, only he/she will be able to explain it to you better.

seeing that you havnt been able to explain anything i imagine that he could do a better job then you not that i really think he would agree with you.

all i want to know is where the magic proteins come from to help you recover or how your muscles magically recover with only fats and glucose?

circadian rhythms

seems to be just the process the body goes through every day. it has nothing to do with anabolic or catabolic just that the body is resting and working on recovering your muscles while you sleep and perhaps alittle while after you awake. if you dont eat when you wake up your body might still be trying to recover but its tearing apart muscle to do so which puts your body in a catabolic state.

anabolic and catabolic have specific definitions and if over all your tearing down your catabolic and if over all your building up your anabolic. your are always going to be tearing down and building up at the same time but what state your in depends on what your doing over all.

[grantm642]

best time to run?

For a lot of us were not pro so it is a case of making time between work and study. To save time I often run to work or home from work providing I'm not training that night in the gym.

I understand the post RE anabollic states and catabollic states etc. but we often fight in the evening (quite late sometimes) so personally I think it is a good idea to train at these times as it gets our body used to performing at these times. I realise its unpractical to always train at these times though.

I don't believe its true that we burn any more calories by simply training at a different time of day. The only reason this would be is because we are too tired to perform at our optimum.