Comments Thread For: Top Rank, PBC plotting several cards to keep big fights in U.S.

[SteveM]

No I’m not. We agree Tank could have a better resume.

It felt like Roach was devalued solely because he was fighting Tank. If he moved up to fight any other champion he’d have been given credit as a champion daring to be great against the best in a heavier division.

The fight was better than expected and truly enjoyable. It unexpectedly set up a highly anticipated rematch. Nothing to complain about other than the ref’s mistake that cost Roach the title.

Tank Loma wouldn’t have been a competitive fight when Tank was younger. We all know it. Loma isn’t diminished either. He performed well but got beat in a close fight against Haney.

Yes I think Inoue v Nakatani will be soon but Nakatani has to grow a bit imo. But yeah that is one dight I am eagerly awaiting.

Well, that's kind of true and kind of not. Roach was overlooked by many but for two reasons, one his 'fault' and one not his 'fault' - I believe he had a belt at 130 but I don't believe Roach was THE CHAMP. That was on him. Whereas Tank has a history of pulling up fighters from 130 and stopping them rather than, say unifying at 135.

Nobody gave Fulton at 122 criticism for fighting Inoue when he moved up. That was because INoue was THE CHAMP at 118 - he had cleared that division out. Nobody gave Bivol crap at 175 when Canelo moved up because Canelo had cleaned out 168.

I do think Loma is diminished in the sense that he is a long way past his prime. I do think it would have been a competitive fight 4 /5 years ago but the issue was that it would have been 50-50 or maybe 45-55 in Loma's favour and THAT was why it didn't happen.

[SteveM]

Let me SPLAIN SUMTIN TO YAH Mr Steven. When you and your boxing friends use terms like "North American fighters" or "PBC fighters" or singling out "Al Haymon" you do know that you're not using some type of coded language. We know what you're talking about. You're just not smart enough to cover your tracks. It's no different than the media using terms like "thugs" or "gang****ers". We know whom they're referring to. Have you watched any recent American military movies like BLACK HAWK DOWN or CAPTAIN PHILLIPS when the US soldiers are fighting African militia men and they always refer to them as "skinnys"? You do know that's the N word right? You guys don't even know it because you're so used to saying stoopid shyte like that and no one ever calls you out. That;s why I'm hated by a lot of you because I don't mind calling you out. But besides all that I for the life of me can't understand why you Brits are sooooo against Americans when in real life you follow right behind us in everything we do. When America has covert operations where they send Delta, Seals and Rangers the S.A.S. are right beside them. When our economy goes up we make sure yours does too. When British actors are good enough to crossover they go to HOLLYWOOD not BOLLYWOOD. Boxing is no different. When US boxing thrives then the UK boxing will as well. Why are you guys so hell bent on siding with the Saudis to meddle in the affair of US boxing? You act like the ******s and Hindus are taking over all of England....Oh wait....ok that's why. My bad!!!

you've totally gone off on one - again - rambling on about war movies. Stick to the topic. Too many American fighters are all about protecting their zero and that's why fights don't get made at the time when they should get made - part of that is on the fighters, part of that is their managers and their promoters - and guess what - PBC, TR and GB are those promoters.

[DClefthook]

Then why haven't Benn vs Eubanks happened yet after all these years? What about the rematch betwen AJ and Whyte. Why you ask? Because they're scared to lose. And who are their promoters? I would try and name some more (close to) undefeated UK boxers but I cant because you guys just aren't that good. But can you do me a favor and please "stick to topic". I asked you a question about why you always side with the anti - (black) American crowd and you failed to answer.???????

[PBR Streetgang]

Any time we can have interesting and compelling fights is a good thing. It's not often we get cross-promotional bouts between contending fighters so I always look forward to that.

I've been a bit underwhelmed by the PBC cards of late. Hopefully an injection of talent from Top Rank's stable can get better matchups and fight cards for the fans.

[El_Mero]

"Mi no blacka"......"Mejorando la raza".....I bet your abuela had that painting of "The redemption of Ham" in her sala de estar. The difference between you and I mi amigo is no matter how good bad or indifferent I embrace my ancestral history. That's what drives me to this day. I have a painting of enslaved Africans in the 1700s picking cotton in the deep south and beneath it the caption reads "On their shoulders we stand" and I kiss that painting everyday to show them my appreciation for what they went through. I don't run from that like you run from yours little pequeno. No matter how much you want to be a European Conquistador you're not. You are an indigenous native who's probably darkskin, wide nose and 4'11 (strawweight) and you should embrace it and not run from it. And furthermore I can guarantee you are one of those THR-ump supporters that voted for your own demise. You might want to tell him that California is your land so he will stop kicking everyone out!

Lmao...to ASSume makes YOU an @ss, not me.
Talk about ignorant. 5'10, 200, brown n proud. Fcuk Trump. You can kiss a painting all you want but you have no history of people from your motherland. This IS my motherland, puto and i know mine!

[El_Mero]

I’m a naturalised American, I wasn’t born here, just took several oaths to it and the Constitution in the US Army and state law enforcement. If you now claim more than the 10 generations then so be it, but let us never question the FBA lineage and contribution to this land. Without them there is no USA as we know it. And much of the patents, inventions, culture, economy of the USA is heavily based on their contributions, (unpaid) labour, patents, inventions, war fighting, sports dominance, utter dominance of entertainment that is exported as American culture as a whole.
as for Turki, best thing as for him to come around. He’s destroyed matchroom, turned it into a second rate promotion and displayed how unprofitable it is in the USA, and is a big reason American boxing will now flourish. Bless him.

I dont take away any contributions from others, you're projecting. My Father was a Vietnam vet and his dad ww2 vet, both R.I.P.

turki came out putting huge quality cards yet people hate lol...I don't gaf what or how many ppv sales. I care about the best fights happening. Tr and pbc are only doing this NOW cause turki forced their hand. Pbc could've done this for the last 10 years but hatmon chose not to. Tr didn't have hbo any more so they're s.hit outta luck. Both are looking up at Turki now. I couldn't care less about matchroom either. Turki payed handsomely, fighters from all those promotions to be on his card. I don't gaf if it's in the middle of the day either. Grew up watching wide world of sports on Sunday afternoon.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I thought that he was 91.

shiiet, that's even more impressive!

[The Big Dunn]

Well, that's kind of true and kind of not. Roach was overlooked by many but for two reasons, one his 'fault' and one not his 'fault' - I believe he had a belt at 130 but I don't believe Roach was THE CHAMP. That was on him. Whereas Tank has a history of pulling up fighters from 130 and stopping them rather than, say unifying at 135.

Nobody gave Fulton at 122 criticism for fighting Inoue when he moved up. That was because INoue was THE CHAMP at 118 - he had cleared that division out. Nobody gave Bivol crap at 175 when Canelo moved up because Canelo had cleaned out 168.

I do think Loma is diminished in the sense that he is a long way past his prime. I do think it would have been a competitive fight 4 /5 years ago but the issue was that it would have been 50-50 or maybe 45-55 in Loma's favour and THAT was why it didn't happen.

Fulton was elevated by fans because he was fighting Inoue. Bivol wasn’t given a lot of credit prior to Canelo.

My point is too many posters judge the opponent based on how they feel about the a side fighter. That is so weak imo.

Loma was fine against Haney. He just lost. I don’t think it would’ve been competitive. That is why so many wanted it then.

If you notice, the same group of posters ( not you) that says Loma beat Haney said he was diminished or shot when they thought he was going to fight Tank.

They just want Tank to lose. Cool but don’t arbitrarily switch on Loma being shot just because you think he might lose if he fights Tank now.

[SteveM]

shiiet, that's even more impressive!

He's actually 93 and 3 months old - born 31 Dec 1931.

This last year he has flown toJapan, Australia and the UK as well as the east coast of USA from his Las Vegas base. Now I'm sure he flies at least business class and likely first class but it doesn't matter what class you fly you still suffer jet lag. I've just got back on a 12 hour flight from China to London - any my body is saying "Biorhythms? What biorhythms?"

Arum, love him or hate him - has an extremely impressive work ethic. I believe that its the VERY FACT that he is still working, and with mostly very young people, that keeps him so vibrant. A lesson for all of us.

And, btw, Don King is now 93 and 7 months old - still promoting, albeit on a lesser scale than Arum.

Perhaps THAT is what keeps them alive - each of them wants to have the last word over the other!

[JohnnyCan]

Hey Black guess what, PBC + Top Rank can give us undisputed at 160 with Lara Adames and Janibek. Why is everyone mad at that?

I’m not mad at that but no way will Adames or Lara step up to fight Janibek (unless forced and probably relinquish belt first). Janibek is an incredible monster and nobody even utters his name. Next in line if avoiding the boogeyman and rightly so.