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    is Lennox Lewis overrated on boxing forums

    i ask this question because i often see Lennox rated as high as No1 All time. Lennox seems to be universally recognized in most posters ATG Top 3.. which i find bazaar. many posters do not rate Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield as Top 10 ATG fighters. They also don't rate Wlad Klitschko as Top 10...Here is a few questions. please answer all 6 questions or none at all.

    1/. Was Lennox resume better than Holyfield, Tyson & Wlad's ?

    2/. Was his longevity and ability better than Holyfield, Tyson & Wlad?

    3/. Was Lennox competition greater than those three's competition?

    4/. prime for prime would Lennox beat those three fighters?

    5/. Why do you think Lennox is rated so highly?

    6/. What is your opinion of someone rating Lennox as No1 ATG ?

    #2
    1. Better than Tyson and Wlad's
    2. Better than Tyson
    3. Same as 1
    4. I believe he beats all 3 prime 4 prime
    5. Because he was a great fighter he deserves to rated highly
    6. P4P or HW that's crazy based on resume but i can see the argument for no.1 head 2 head HW

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      #3
      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
      i ask this question because i often see Lennox rated as high as No1 All time. Lennox seems to be universally recognized in most posters ATG Top 3.. which i find bazaar. many posters do not rate Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield as Top 10 ATG fighters. They also don't rate Wlad Klitschko as Top 10...Here is a few questions. please answer all 6 questions or none at all.

      1/. Was Lennox resume better than Holyfield, Tyson & Wlad's ?

      2/. Was his longevity and ability better than Holyfield, Tyson & Wlad?

      3/. Was Lennox competition greater than those three's competition?

      4/. prime for prime would Lennox beat those three fighters?

      5/. Why do you think Lennox is rated so highly?

      6/. What is your opinion of someone rating Lennox as No1 ATG ?

      Firstly, I don't know how long you have been out of solitary confinement for to know the world around you but let me assure you...

      Almost everybody has Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield and Wladimir Klitschko in there top 10's and those who don't would be foolish.

      1/ Lennox's resume was nearly as good as Wlad's (mostly falling short to simply fighting less opponents) and better than Holyfield and Tyson's.

      2/ His ability and longevity was better than Tyson's, ability possibly on par with Wlad's (not longevity of course). Ability much better than Holyfield's and although Holyfield went longer, Lewis was a grade A fighter for longer.

      3/ Greater competition than them except maybe Wlad. Of Lewis's 44 fights though, they were all qualitatively equivalent to Wlad's opponents.

      4/ Prime for prime, it's obvious he beats Holyfield, probable he beats Tyson and possible he beats Wladimir.

      5/ Lennox gets rated so highly because as a HW his combined package of qualities were so high and so dominant that hardly any clear cut challenges to it existed. Never before had the world seen such ownage!

      6/ My opinion of someone rating Lennox Lewis at 1 ATG for me is a very viable opinion.

      It is basically impossible to overrate Lennox Lewis.

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        #4
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
        i ask this question because i often see Lennox rated as high as No1 All time. Lennox seems to be universally recognized in most posters ATG Top 3.. which i find bazaar. many posters do not rate Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield as Top 10 ATG fighters. They also don't rate Wlad Klitschko as Top 10...Here is a few questions. please answer all 6 questions or none at all.

        1/. Was Lennox resume better than Holyfield, Tyson & Wlad's ?

        2/. Was his longevity and ability better than Holyfield, Tyson & Wlad?

        3/. Was Lennox competition greater than those three's competition?

        4/. prime for prime would Lennox beat those three fighters?

        5/. Why do you think Lennox is rated so highly?

        6/. What is your opinion of someone rating Lennox as No1 ATG ?
        What is your obsession with lennox...

        No one ever, has ever claimed lennox to be #1 ATG,,, your making up straw man arguments in your head...

        to answer your questions
        1,, resume is better except for holyfield

        2.. longevity is much better than tyson, behind holyfield, and on par with wlad but i would give edge to lennox as his level of competition has been much better and was in a much deeper era than wlad.. not a knock on wlad, he just happens to be in a weak era, though it was improved recently

        3.. lennox and holyfield fought everyone, they are about a tie.. lennox fought much better competition than wlad, and has more depth than tyson, who only had about a 3 year run vs top guys

        4. prime vs prime, he beats wlad, toss up between tyson and holyfield, and would probably be split decisions every time vs those 2 guys

        5. because he was a ****ing badass, that was huge, had great jab and skills, and had awesome power

        6.. its absurd to rate him #1 but he is a legit top 5 or 10 heavy of all time, without a doubt

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          #5
          1. Better than Tyson's and miles better than Klit's.

          2. Better than Tyson on par with Holyfield. Klit fights in a very weak era so his isn't as impressive.

          3. Holyfield's was slightly better(Evander thanked Lewis because the guys that were scared of Lewis fought Evander instead). Better than Tyson's, way better than Klit's.


          4. He'd beat Holyfield and Klit. Peak Tyson vs Peak Lewis would be a good fight, could go either way.

          5. Because his skills were unmatched. He was big, fast, supremely athletic, and could throw every punch in the book. He could fight great on the inside and outside which is a rarity among big men. One of the biggest punchers in the history of the sport. He had good stamina. There was never a concern about him gassing out like Klit. He had a good chin.
          One thing that often gets undervalued is his heart. Throughout his career he showed the ability to comeback and prevail in tough fights.

          6. I certainly wouldn't rate him #1 ATG based on accomplishments. I wouldn't argue however with someone ranking him #1 H2H.

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            #6
            This thread is a theatre of the absurd....Yu have Sonny Boy hitting the Lennox haterade again, ****ing up the section, with his anti Lewis agenda and then you have ******ed Elroy making it seem perfectly logical to assert that tomatoe can fighting Vlad has fought better comp than Lewis....

            am i in the history section or the ****** section?

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              #7
              i cannot stop laughing. maybe one of you guys can explain to me what you mean by H2H ?.. as i am confused by what it means.

              Maybe you could also tell me which fights of Lewis i can watch, so as to see his, " his skills were unmatched. He was big, fast, supremely athletic, and could throw every punch in the book. He could fight great on the inside and outside which is a rarity among big men. One of the biggest punchers in the history of the sport. He had good stamina. There was never a concern about him gassing out like Klit. He had a good chin.
              One thing that often gets undervalued is his heart. Throughout his career he showed the ability to comeback and prevail in tough fights.""?


              All i can say is, You guys ain't watched very much Heavyweight boxing in your short lives.

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                #8
                Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                This thread is a theatre of the absurd....Yu have Sonny Boy hitting the Lennox haterade again, ****ing up the section, with his anti Lewis agenda and then you have ******ed Elroy making it seem perfectly logical to assert that tomatoe can fighting Vlad has fought better comp than Lewis....

                am i in the history section or the ****** section?
                youre not exactly making this thread any less ridiculous with this post. yes,,,,lennox's resume is slightly better than Tysons and moderately better than wlads but neither of the other 2 are that far from it. as much as sonny hates on lennox,,,you hate on wlad. all three are atg greats and deserve respect for fighting the best available for there eras. obviously lennox's era was much better than Tysons and espescially wlads

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                  #9
                  Holyfield clearly has the best resume of Lewis, Wlad, himself and Tyson.

                  Lewis clearly has a much better resume than both Tyson and Wlad.

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                    #10
                    Yeah he is overrated quite a lot.

                    I would argue that Wlad is ranked above him Infact i probably would rank him above him if I did an updated list.

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