Southpaw Heavyweight Ranked Contenders? 1924-2023

[JAB5239]

Head to head Vitali is problematical for anyone, but he avoided so many ranked contenders He and his brothers careers were cleverly,but cynically orchestrated.

Agreed 100%.

[QueensburyRules]

Same reason Wlad never looked to rematch Sanders, it was a bad styles matchup for him. The Klitschko's have/had their faults as fighters, but neither were ****** bty any means. Look at the Way Vits career was maneuvered. He missed fighting far better fighters (28 ring ranked fighters not fought) to fight guys like Charr, Sosnowski, Briggs, Danny Williams and such. He didn't fight any of the best eastern european fighters at that time and stuck strictly by the WBC ratings, which like every other alphabet org are shady and unscrupulous.

- - Came to US as senior Brother to lobby Kate vs Lewie/Field/Tyson/BigDummy.

They snubbed him.

Emasculated US fighters better served in granny knitting circles than blithering about emasculated American hvys.

[Dr. Z]

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His trainer had been working with pros for Universum since 1994, easily looked up. I know for a fact he said he would win back HIS title..he said this during the interview after the Byrd fight. Does that mean he wanted a rematch with Byrd? I don't know. What do you think though? The fact is he never sought one. Both were ranked closely for several years yet no offer presented itself. You can deduct from that what you will, but the point stands. Vits never looked to avenge that loss rather leaving it to Wlad. Boxing isn't a tag team.[/QUOTE Vits had a professional trainer who had been trying pro's long before Klitschko.

Vits had a professional trainer who had been trying pro's long before Klitschko.- Jab

VK turned pro in 1996. His trainer had traded s pro for a long time as you said , as in 1994. That is clear. He was a newbie pro trainer. Those are the facts/

You are not very objective on Byrd and VK.

[Dr. Z]

Head to head Vitali is problematical for anyone, but he avoided so many ranked contenders. He and his brothers careers were cleverly,but cynically orchestrated.

Anyone can say he missed so and so many top ten contenders. Of course there are only so many fights and if your count the men fighter x did not fight in the ring magazine top ten you will get a high amount...for anyone. Be it Lewis, of Holyfield. But Lewis dropped his belt to avoid contenders! That is duck.

Lewis also declined the re-match vs. Vitali. And he did not fight any southpaws! Nor did he fight any tricky fighters either such as Byrd, Ruiz, or Toney. History tells us that.

[JAB5239]

- - Came to US as senior Brother to lobby Kate vs Lewie/Field/Tyson/BigDummy.

They snubbed him.

Emasculated US fighters better served in granny knitting circles than blithering about emasculated American hvys.

Bowe was retired by then, Lewis ripped Vits face off and stopped him, Holy was calling both bros out for years and Tyson didn't need them in his twilight years as a fighter rather fighting the best (Lewis) of that time.

[JAB5239]

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His trainer had been working with pros for Universum since 1994, easily looked up. I know for a fact he said he would win back HIS title..he said this during the interview after the Byrd fight. Does that mean he wanted a rematch with Byrd? I don't know. What do you think though? The fact is he never sought one. Both were ranked closely for several years yet no offer presented itself. You can deduct from that what you will, but the point stands. Vits never looked to avenge that loss rather leaving it to Wlad. Boxing isn't a tag team.[/QUOTE Vits had a professional trainer who had been trying pro's long before Klitschko.



VK turned pro in 1996. His trainer had traded s pro for a long time as you said , as in 1994. That is clear. He was a newbie pro trainer. Those are the facts/

You are not very objective on Byrd and VK.

2 years is an entire career for some fighters. The point is Queenie is a liar because Vitty most certainly had a pro trainer. He had also trained amateur fighters at the highest level.

I am very objective on Byrd and Vits. Facts are Vits said he would rematch and never did, he only landed 8 more punches the entire fight and Byrd was backing him up plentey of times even the giving up every physical advantage. What exactly is not objective about that?

[JAB5239]

Anyone can say he missed so and so many top ten contenders. Of course there are only so many fights and if your count the men fighter x did not fight in the ring magazine top ten you will get a high amount...for anyone. Be it Lewis, of Holyfield. But Lewis dropped his belt to avoid contenders! That is duck.

Lewis also declined the re-match vs. Vitali. And he did not fight any southpaws! Nor did he fight any tricky fighters either such as Byrd, Ruiz, or Toney. History tells us that.

Come on, 28 ring top 10 fighter missed in favor of the crap the WBC gave him instead. He fought none of the top eastern euros. He didn't fight Ruiz or Toney and quit against Byrd. Ad on the other hand fought the best fighters he could including most of the best EE fighters. Vits career was carefully crafted.

[Ivich]

Anyone can say he missed so and so many top ten contenders. Of course there are only so many fights and if your count the men fighter x did not fight in the ring magazine top ten you will get a high amount...for anyone. Be it Lewis, of Holyfield. But Lewis dropped his belt to avoid contenders! That is duck.

Lewis also declined the re-match vs. Vitali. And he did not fight any southpaws! Nor did he fight any tricky fighters either such as Byrd, Ruiz, or Toney. History tells us that.

Cliff Rold boxing writer schooled you on the contenders Vitali missed.I think the figure was 28?
Lewis retired the year Toney entered the top ten, Why didn't either of the Klits fight him?
Lewis avenged his 2 losses

Why didn't Vitali rematch Byrd? Why didn't Wlad rematch Sanders? Quack Quack Quack! lol

Lewis fought top ten Ring ranked men a total of 15 times!

[Dr. Z]

Cliff Rold boxing writer schooled you on the contenders Vitali missed.I think the figure was 28?
Lewis retired the year Toney entered the top ten, Why didn't either of the Klits fight him?
Lewis avenged his 2 losses

Why didn't Vitali rematch Byrd? Why didn't Wlad rematch Sanders? Quack Quack Quack! lol

Lewis fought top ten Ring ranked men a total of 15 times!

Cliff is knowledge and as I remember he opted out of the debate and would not post the photo of the ring magazine ratings that he has. WHY? He settled on I was right on the on line ratings.

Lewis fought 15 ranked Ring magazine ranked men, which is outstanding! Unfortunately for you he also avoid people by dropping a belt avoid Byrd, a re-match vs VK, and did not fight any southpaws, I say by choice! All facts.

I don't have much time for you, fool. Be gone.

[Ivich]

Cliff is knowledge and as I remember he opened out of the debate and would not post the photo of the ring magazine ratings that he has. WHY? He settled on I was right on the on line ratings.

Lewis fought 15 ranked Ring magazine ranked men, which is outstanding! Unfortunately for your he also avoid people by dropping a belt avoid Byrd, a re-match vs VK, and did not fight any southpaws, I say by choice! All facts.

I don't have much time for you, fool. Be gone.

No ,he schooled you and only bailed out when you would not admit he was right and you were wrong! Now you are lying.

You don't have much time for me? I despise you.