Ariza says high altitude training is counterproductive?

[Canelo Phresh]

dont need high altitude training on his power pellets.

[mathed]

The only evidence you need is African runners. Kenyan runners are hands down the best due to the training at altitudes of over 2000 meters (6,560 feet). As you go up in altitude, the air becomes less dense......density = mass/volume so that means there is less mass per cubic foot (or meter) at higher altitudes. This means that your lungs and muscles are taking in less oxygen per breath than at lower altitudes. This also means that something within your body must change or adapt to make up for it - the theory is that more red blood cells (the ones responsible for oxygen transport) must be generated by the body to counteract this lack of oxygen so that more O2 can be carried per breath. When back at lower altitudes, where there is more oxygen present in the air, the extra red blood cells enable you to have an advantage because your stamina level was developed at the higher altitudes.

Opinions are opinions but Kenyan runners dominate marathons and that is a fact.

[mathed]

I think things are different when you go up to high altitudes to train for 6 weeks than say 6months. Your body is put under stress by going back and forth and his comments kind of make sense.

However, I think people that naturally live in higher altitudes are benefited from their environment when they compete at lower elevations.

I agree, training for a few weeks isn't doing anything for you. Living there will force your body to adapt or else you'd struggle doing moderate activity.

[p4p-champ]

Interesting read but Mosley has been training out of Big Bear for years. If he is going to get tired it wont be because of the altitude change, he just damn old.

Marquez is another fighter that has fought in high altitude for ages. He looks like he can go 15 rounds even at his advanced age.

[edgarg]

The only evidence you need is African runners. Kenyan runners are hands down the best due to the training at altitudes of over 2000 meters (6,560 feet). As you go up in altitude, the air becomes less dense......density = mass/volume so that means there is less mass per cubic foot (or meter) at higher altitudes. This means that your lungs and muscles are taking in less oxygen per breath than at lower altitudes. This also means that something within your body must change or adapt to make up for it - the theory is that more red blood cells (the ones responsible for oxygen transport) must be generated by the body to counteract this lack of oxygen so that more O2 can be carried per breath. When back at lower altitudes, where there is more oxygen present in the air, the extra red blood cells enable you to have an advantage because your stamina level was developed at the higher altitudes.

Opinions are opinions but Kenyan runners dominate marathons and that is a fact.

You are absolutely correct. This subject has been discussed for YEARS, and it is already accepted that Kenyans and Ethiopians are by far, the most likely to win all the endurance runs, in the best times. And for exactly the reasons you have stated. These reasons were arrived at from careful investigation by medical experimenters, and has neen confirmed at every long distance race.

[SpitBalla]

The us Olympic training center is up in the mountains in the Rockies, the highest elevation in the US. It sure as hell doesn't hurt our Olympians. Also the increase in red blood cells lasts a while, it does not revert back immediately as Ariza suggests.

But I have no idea about blood getting too thick from too many red blood cells, although I doubt it since the Russian Olympians and others who blood doped and drastically increased their red blood cell count, kicked major ass, before there was testing for blood doping.

[BorderPatrol]

Ariza strikes me as a cokehead...

[Ido]

The purpose for high altitude training is to produce more red blood cells. Since red blood cells carry oxygen through your system. More red blood cells equates to more oxygen in your system.

The need to increment red blood cells is highly sought out by all kinds of athletes.

There are four ways to increase your red cell count.

1 - Oxygen Chamber.
2 - High Altitude Training.
3 - Blood Doping (which is not allowed)
4 - Taking EPO (which is a banned substance in Boxing).


Alex is just one conditioner, preaching against the use altitude training for boxing. But many credible conditioners would lobby in favor of altitude training, since its one of the few ways to naturally increase red cell count with out cheating.

[-Boxzilla-]

The purpose for high altitude training is to produce more red blood cells. Since red blood cells carry oxygen through your system. More red blood cells equates to more oxygen in your system.

The need to increment red blood cells is highly sought of by all kinds of athletes.

There are four ways to increase your red cell count.

1 -Oxygen Chamber.
2 - High Altitude Training.
3 - Blood Doping.
4 - Taking EPO (which is a banned substance in Boxing).


Alex is just one conditioner, preaching against the use altitude training for boxing. But many credible conditioners would lobby in favor of altitude training, since its one of the few ways to naturally increase red cell count with out cheating.

ya like natural epo ... thinking about this more kinda makes me wonder about ariza. maybe in pac's case i can see the argument cause theyre trying to maintain weight not lose any. but hes an exception to the norm when it come to that. for most it seems quite beneficial

[UglyPug]

Why does Ariza always come off as such a **** in everyting he does? Like seriously, every interview I've ever seen he just plain sucks. This dude is a sorry ass protein shake maker. I wish he would jsut disappear forever.

lol, i feel the same way all the time when he tries to make himself sound all high and mighty and important. he would still be a personal trainer for old women at 50 bucks a session if it wasn't for manny and roach giving him a chance. ariza know your role.